tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post1180126658986103347..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Cadman Book LeakSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-48389410147634375262008-03-03T12:25:00.000-05:002008-03-03T12:25:00.000-05:00The link isn't working anymore. Anywhere else to ...The link isn't working anymore. Anywhere else to get it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-74026415940029594492008-03-03T10:41:00.000-05:002008-03-03T10:41:00.000-05:00tommI hardly think the "they did it too" argument ...tomm<BR/><BR/>I hardly think the "they did it too" argument is particularly strong, in fact it speaks a lack of real retort for the issue itself. All anyone can seem to offer is distractions, distortions, because they can't deal with the context. I'm not biting, nor do I have to defend a party I wasn't a member of...Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-28904012998109717272008-03-03T09:42:00.000-05:002008-03-03T09:42:00.000-05:00Amazing how they keep mentioning/trashing Stronach...Amazing how they keep mentioning/trashing Stronach but keep ignoring Khan and Emerson...hmmm.... - oh and Fortier.<BR/><BR/>I seem to recall when all this was happening Cadman being asked what he and Martin talked about and I thought Cadman said they discussed his mission regarding crime - related to his son's death. I could be wrong here.<BR/><BR/>So, watching the Mulroney thing, the current scandal regarding Cadman and watching on the news about Black going to prison today.<BR/><BR/>Not a good week for Conservatives -the family values people.RuralSandihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552973218865121867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-71356204184234499312008-03-03T07:02:00.000-05:002008-03-03T07:02:00.000-05:00I see that Mike Brock is saying that a copy of the...I see that Mike Brock is saying that a copy of the leaked book was sent to him. I wonder if any non-Conservatives were also send a copy of the leaked book?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-82939635224098803472008-03-03T03:56:00.000-05:002008-03-03T03:56:00.000-05:00Ahh, good ol' Tomm, taking over from Wilson when s...Ahh, good ol' Tomm, taking over from Wilson when she's in the shop getting her tinfoil adjusted.<BR/>Your party offered a dying man a pretty big carrot to become one of them. Never mind that they backstabbed him at his own nomination (Harper sent in his agents to promote the new 'former liberal' guy -- which is now common practice among many of their suburban ridings). We've got 3 family members saying that Cadman's perception was that he was just offered a bribe, one aimed at his weakest point.<BR/>And all you can do is say 'They did it too!'<BR/>What high standards you seem to be setting for your children...<BR/><BR/>And thanks to Buckets. It just goes to show the Harper's Faust complex is a continuous thread. If we end up giving this corrupt, ethically lobotomized robot the keys to our country, i guess we can look south to see the end result. A political system gutted of its integrity and meaning.burlivespipehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048415779214466831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-83149223704424374662008-03-03T01:51:00.000-05:002008-03-03T01:51:00.000-05:00Steve,I sure hope that Harper has the guts to put ...Steve,<BR/><BR/>I sure hope that Harper has the guts to put the idea of money for votes on the table. This isn't just Cadman. Cadman is sexy cuz he was dying and now he's dead and his widow and daughter are photogenic. <BR/><BR/>But the issue is a good one. <BR/><BR/>Do Canadian politican's barter their votes for favors?<BR/><BR/>Clearly it can be argued that they don't if the vote is "whipped" but are open to it at other times such as Belinda Stronach & Chuck Cadman were during the budget vote. <BR/><BR/>If its illegal than its illegal. I think Yogi Berra said that. If he didn't he should have.<BR/><BR/>If the Liberal's are successful with slinging it at Harper, I hope the media makes sure Paul Martin is right there with him because the Liberal's appear to be just as dirty. <BR/><BR/>I know this doesn't get the CPC off the hook, but it sure sounds funny coming from you guys given what happened with Stronach.<BR/><BR/>TommTommhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06072854015300215347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-19552792362970950492008-03-02T23:50:00.000-05:002008-03-02T23:50:00.000-05:00Steve, agreed. It is like putting the genie back. ...Steve, agreed. It <I>is</I> like putting the genie back. I'm not being critical of you. It's out there plain and simple.<BR/><BR/>I think you did a great job of showing how this is yet to be resolved, while taking the Lib's out of the equation. Well done.<BR/><BR/>What do you think about the forward? I saw nothing there that told me Martin had read the book.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-60687610776270669022008-03-02T22:25:00.000-05:002008-03-02T22:25:00.000-05:00Thanks for the link, Buckets. I hadn't seen that ...Thanks for the link, Buckets. I hadn't seen that editing before. Those Harper-Conservatives are really bad.<BR/><BR/>Steve, you could be right about the leaks. I've already seen a Harper supporter saying that after reading the leaked book, he's even more convinced there's nothing to it. Presumably because Martin looked good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-56349539475242888002008-03-02T21:05:00.000-05:002008-03-02T21:05:00.000-05:00clhSpeculating of course, but I wouldn't doubt the...clh<BR/><BR/>Speculating of course, but I wouldn't doubt the Cons leaked it. There is really nothing more in the book, that hasn't been released already, so by getting the whole thing out now, it eliminates the "other shoe" scenario. <BR/><BR/><BR/>"Steve, I refused to link to the book, because as an artist, I'm sorry for this author."<BR/><BR/>I completely understand that knb, but it's almost like trying to put the genie back in the bottle.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-29645956677258123302008-03-02T20:45:00.000-05:002008-03-02T20:45:00.000-05:00While we're recalling those happy days, it might b...While we're recalling those happy days, it might be worth remembering how Chuck Cadman appeared in the <A HREF="http://bucketsofgrewal.blogspot.com/2005/06/edited-out-chuck-cadman-is-honest-man.html" REL="nofollow">Grewal tapes</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-51291214043838986222008-03-02T20:12:00.001-05:002008-03-02T20:12:00.001-05:00Kay was really bad, but Adler is even worse. He r...Kay was really bad, but Adler is even worse. He really trashes the entire Cadman family (living and dead) as you might guess by the Cadmanscam in the title. <BR/><BR/>I was really surprised to see the entire book on the web, but I keep wondering who is doing all the leaking. I also wonder if anything in this section will change in the published version. The publisher said an early (year old) copy had been leaked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-91183534117420056472008-03-02T20:12:00.000-05:002008-03-02T20:12:00.000-05:00gayle I just wrote about it. It made me sick.Stev...gayle I just wrote about it. It made me sick.<BR/><BR/>Steve, I refused to link to the book, because as an artist, I'm sorry for this author. <BR/><BR/>Looking at your cut and paste though, it's obvious that the document was scanned, so, someone not considering the impact. gayle, I do hope whoever this is, is sued. For the record, I'm going to buy the book because frankly I'd like to know more about the man, Cadman.<BR/><BR/>That aside, you brought out some interesting excerpts. It's not surprising to me to see that the Lib's behaved. Good grief, consider the position Martin was in?<BR/><BR/>I don't think Martin needed Ujjal's persuasion. I think he was the introduction point. He knew Cadman.<BR/><BR/>The Con's are quick to relate back to Adscam, but how can you compare corrupt civil servents and horrible oversight, with the leader of the opposition then and now sitting PM with that?<BR/><BR/>My feeling is we've allowed ourselves to be painted and it's time to grab the brush. Not the canvas just yet, but the brush.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-15323601931799579732008-03-02T19:41:00.000-05:002008-03-02T19:41:00.000-05:00"Did you see Charles Adler's column in the Post?"I..."Did you see Charles Adler's column in the Post?"<BR/><BR/>I read a Kay column yesterday, it was so out to lunch, I've given up on the NP. What a useless rag, on Friday all of their outlets ignored the story, and since all they can do is flail away, it's like an alternate universe. I suppose it provides a safe haven for the supporters with their hands over their ears.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-85775543752897550212008-03-02T19:37:00.000-05:002008-03-02T19:37:00.000-05:00Did you see Charles Adler's column in the Post? Th...Did you see Charles Adler's column in the Post? The one where he suggests Cadman lied to his family because he was bitter when the conservatives would not meet his price for his vote?<BR/><BR/>I guess Adler et al are going to have to add Martin and Dosanjh to their list of liars in their desperate attempt to suggest their own hands are clean.<BR/><BR/>In another note, whoever leaked this to the internet better hope they are not found out, as there is a big lawsuit awaiting them.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.com