tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post1581587962315409229..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: One Of Those PollsSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-5100857473100315172011-08-10T21:26:45.978-04:002011-08-10T21:26:45.978-04:00This illustrates why I cannot abide the Dipper MOR...This illustrates why I cannot abide the Dipper MORE HOLY THAN THOU BULLSHIT & Jack's famous lack of good judgement. When I think of the place our nation is in I can only barf in my mouth so I can feel better. FECKJimmEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703715618040666970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-49382373622120576602011-08-10T16:22:12.497-04:002011-08-10T16:22:12.497-04:00DL: Three words to answer your question: Harper sy...DL: Three words to answer your question: Harper sympathizing media. <br /><br />Sorry. Thought you were on the jump on Bob Rae camp because he dared to use his aeroplan membership.CKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10762523064802036223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-74158513031595876022011-08-10T16:08:16.468-04:002011-08-10T16:08:16.468-04:00CK, can I just say that I was not personally attac...CK, can I just say that I was not personally attacking Bob Rae about the "SuperElite" incident. I'm an Elite member of Aeroplan myself and I am quite happy to enjoy whatever privileges that gives me. I was simply noting that Bob Rae has high disapproval ratings despite an orgy of fawning sycophantic media coverage and i was wondering if the explanation might be the negative publicity about his "Super Elite" story. That's all. Any other theory on why Bob Rae rates worse in the poll than Nycole Turmel does after a solid week of her being red-baited as someone who wants to "destroy Canada"?DLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11587165866597795302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-56498197527785502962011-08-10T15:36:10.653-04:002011-08-10T15:36:10.653-04:00CK
If you take the narrow view, perhaps they are ...CK<br /><br />If you take the narrow view, perhaps they are wasting their time, but I take a much wider theme approach:<br /><br />http://farnwide.blogspot.com/2011/08/federalist-vacuum.html<br /><br />Purple<br /><br />I wouldn't make that connection, and the Cons didn't get 49% in Ont and B.C. Not sure why people think an adversion to separatism is right or left wing?Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-75757257880527141272011-08-10T15:30:08.033-04:002011-08-10T15:30:08.033-04:00Hrm. Both nationally and, for instance, in Ontari...Hrm. Both nationally and, for instance, in Ontario, the numbers upset about it seem to be almost exactly the same as the numbers who voted Conservative in the recent election.<br />OK, I'm not going to claim that the two groups are identical. But I would not be at all surprised if the overlap was considerably greater than a random distribution would give you.<br />How much should the NDP worry about what right-wingers think?Purple library guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930984683714519212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-49310963922426863442011-08-10T15:24:18.020-04:002011-08-10T15:24:18.020-04:00The Liberals are wasting their time going on so-ca...The Liberals are wasting their time going on so-called 'sovereigntist' witch hunts. Furthermore, it makes them look like hypocrites. Saaa-lut Jean Lapierre!!<br /><br />There is much for the Liberals to do, like, oh, I dunno, rebuilding their party, preparing for the fall session. To find every tool at their disposal to oppose Stevie. A hideous tough on crime themed omnibus bill is on the way, comes complete with warrantless internet spying. Already Mme Turmel has missed a trick when she refused to comment over the week-end on government service cuts, thus proving she'll miss other tricks Bob Rae and the Liberals can surely pick up. They don't need this witch hunt.<br /><br />In fact, federalists of any partisan stripe should be welcoming sovereigntists looking toward teh federalist side with open arms instead of condemnation. That is, if your Canada really does include Quebec. <br /><br />Furthermore, this witch hunt is counter procuctive in La belle province, unless, of course, you're suggesting to the Liberals that they tell Quebec to screw off. Already, attempting to regain support in Quebec was (is) problematic. This witch hunt may well hammer the last nail in that coffin. <br /><br />This witch hunt suggests that once a separatist-always a separatist and a separatist, even if he or she wishes to change their mind, is never welcome to do so. This kind of attitude may well be another step in further waking up the sovereigntist cause, regardless of the state of the Parti-Quebecois. Nothing like alienation to bring it all together. At the very least, the Bloc Quebecois may well be resurrected. <br /><br />Then again, after watching the witch hunts as of late, maybe your Canada really doesn't include Quebec. <br /><br />As for you, DL, your silly statement over Bob Rae using his Air Canada's Super-Elite membership status, get over it. If you flew all those kilometers to earn it, don't tell me you wouldn't use the 'super-elite' status neither. At least he didn't use a tax-payer funded private plane to go to Boston to watch a hockey game.CKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10762523064802036223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-11846926333487327582011-08-10T12:11:02.855-04:002011-08-10T12:11:02.855-04:00Yes, and Harper continually has received a net neg...Yes, and Harper continually has received a net negative score for two years on that poll. Beyond useless, particularly for Turmel.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-44578983903773773932011-08-10T11:00:26.088-04:002011-08-10T11:00:26.088-04:00Another interesting tidbit in the poll is that des...Another interesting tidbit in the poll is that despite being totally unknown at the outset and even after a week of a full court press of media vilification - Turmel has 22% approval and 23% disapproval (i.e. net approval -1%). In contrast Bob Rae has been a household name for over 20 years and has been getting an endless stream of fawning media coverage for the past couple of months - he gets 23% approval and 33% disapproval (i.e. net approval -10%). Do you think this is all because of his "I am Super-Elite" incident?DLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11587165866597795302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-8165489026029385162011-08-10T08:00:26.428-04:002011-08-10T08:00:26.428-04:00You could say that about every issue though.
I t...You could say that about every issue though. <br /><br />I think this issue of how the NDP became so popular in Quebec is one that will continue to be discussed and hopefully exploited by the Liberals. And, for a party looking to reassert itself, a relatively weak interim leader of the Official Opposition isn't exactly a "whatever" consideration.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-52549329133523641522011-08-10T07:57:06.268-04:002011-08-10T07:57:06.268-04:00If an election was pending and Turmel was the lead...If an election was pending and Turmel was the leader going into it, I'd agree.<br /><br />Seeing as Turmel won't be the one leading them into an election, regardless of Jack's health, and an election is 3 1/2 years or so away, I think folks are overstating this.Scott @ Prog Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05413703894603273706noreply@blogger.com