tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post2295226737355592507..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: "I know he cares about global warming. I know he cares about climate change" John Baird on Stephane DionSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-14381709432424585212008-07-07T12:37:00.000-04:002008-07-07T12:37:00.000-04:00Blues Clair quotes the obvious.The point of a neut...Blues Clair quotes the obvious.<BR/><BR/>The point of a neutral tax shift is to raise the cost on things we don't want (carbon pollution). The obvious part of the program left out by Clair's quote is the lowering on the cost on things we do want (income and investment). <BR/><BR/>The "lying buffoonery is the selective nature of Blues Clair's quote: its deliberate absence of the positive offset of the neutral tax shift.<BR/><BR/>Clair, a half truth is a lie. Do you mean to deliberately propagate a lie?<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>CoffeeWalks With Coffeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019579871194377605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-78631233156655911352008-07-06T21:02:00.000-04:002008-07-06T21:02:00.000-04:00"The Conservatives have not been straightforward w...<I>"The Conservatives have not been straightforward with John Baird, Minister of the Environment, indicating that only dirty big companies will bear the costs. However, given that companies must raise capital from international markets, costs cannot be passed onto shareholders but instead must result in higher consumer prices or lost jobs."</I><BR/>- <A HREF="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/06/27/jack-mintz-regulation-vs-taxes.aspx" REL="nofollow">Jack Mintz</A><BR/>Palmer Professor of Public Policy, University of CalgaryBlues Clairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08053624911945551511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-70395291256895259322008-07-06T19:55:00.000-04:002008-07-06T19:55:00.000-04:00Yah I think the main worry here is the green shift...Yah I think the main worry here is the green shift may mean smaller overall salaries for the fat cat oil barons in Canada,the US and Europe. I for one am looking forward to seeing that happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-660206837194054262008-07-06T19:34:00.000-04:002008-07-06T19:34:00.000-04:00The gall of Baird!Heck, more people need to look a...The gall of Baird!<BR/><BR/>Heck, more people need to look at the Conservatives proposal. Mintz himself pointed out in that article that the Conservatives are doing cap-and-trade. From the government mouth at http://tinyurl.com/65a4x9 :<BR/><BR/>----------<BR/><BR/>How industry can comply<BR/><BR/>Several options will allow companies to choose the most cost-effective way to meet their reduction targets and can encourage innovation and the adoption of cleaner technologies. These options include: <BR/><BR/>...# Emissions trading: Companies whose emissions are below their target will receive credits that could either be “banked” for future use, or sold to other companies who had not met their target. Emissions trading will initially be done domestically but future linkages with emissions trading systems in the U.S., and possibly Mexico, will be explored.<BR/><BR/># Offsets:As part of the domestic emissions trading mechanism, companies could acquire offset credits by purchasing emissions reductions from activities that are not regulated (e.g. emissions from agriculture). The offsets system is a way to engage other sectors of the Canadian economy to make greenhouse gas reductions.<BR/><BR/># Access to Kyoto's Clean Development Mechanism:This will generate real reductions globally through emissions reductions from projects in developing countries.<BR/><BR/>----------<BR/><BR/>And what affect will the conservative plan have on our economy and our lives? Well..<BR/><BR/>From http://tinyurl.com/6r2nog<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>The costs are real, but manageable. This can include price increases for consumer products such as vehicles, electricity, natural gas, and household appliances. We must all be prepared to do our part in order to get the job done.<BR/>--------<BR/><BR/>The Liberals would give us tax cuts to deal with those costs. The Conservatives simply have us footing the bill, while low emission regions sell their unused allocations of emissions to higher emitting regions. Read: Alberta (high emissions) will have to send money East (low emissions, esp. Quebec). <BR/><BR/>So, should not Albertans be objecting to the Conservatives' plan as well, given that it will also transfer wealth east and increase costs?Mark Richard Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16331995640397477486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-4710772540009247442008-07-06T18:55:00.000-04:002008-07-06T18:55:00.000-04:00Great to see you back. I saw the interview and I ...Great to see you back. I saw the interview and I think that was a brilliant breakdown.<BR/><BR/>Walks with...is correct, specifically related to the last para.<BR/><BR/>Gotta run, dinner, but hope to be back later.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-47365658460293731032008-07-06T17:11:00.000-04:002008-07-06T17:11:00.000-04:00The Supreme Court has ruled that if a reasonable p...The Supreme Court has ruled that if a reasonable person could come to a conclusion based on evidence, then that person can speak their conclusion. <BR/><BR/>A reasonable conclusion from the above facts: John Baird is either lying or a buffoon... more likely, he is a lying buffoon.<BR/><BR/>At some point the MSM has to start expressing a similar opinion, or they are simply reporting buffoonery as fact.Walks With Coffeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019579871194377605noreply@blogger.com