tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post3131569615196390010..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: SmallSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-11387623513499357982007-10-09T16:59:00.000-04:002007-10-09T16:59:00.000-04:00Any MP who wants to go should be accommodated. No...Any MP who wants to go should be accommodated. Not in individual trips - we can't tie down the CF with nursemaid missions - but in groups like when the US Senate Armed Forces committee decides to see for itself what's going on.<BR/><BR/>If nothing else, this is a massive multibillion commitment of taxpayer cash and foreign policy weight - oversight shouldn't even be a question.Mark Dowlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01399115211805036553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-13548960985969215502007-10-06T22:00:00.000-04:002007-10-06T22:00:00.000-04:00wilsonWhat a pathetic rationalization.TommReasonab...wilson<BR/><BR/>What a pathetic rationalization.<BR/><BR/>Tomm<BR/><BR/>Reasonable accomodation indeed. If there was some dialogue, and Coderre acted irresponsibily that would be one thing. However, it appears Coderre was stonewalled from day one, which led to this avenue, not by choice, but by default.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-60715439068255401682007-10-06T20:44:00.000-04:002007-10-06T20:44:00.000-04:00Steve,This sort of petty vindictiveness is not som...Steve,<BR/><BR/>This sort of petty vindictiveness is not something to be admired in the present government. <BR/><BR/>You are correct in saying that regardless what they thought personnally of Mr. Coderre, unless he has a history of breaching public confidence, there is an obligation for reasonable accommodation. I do not think he recieved that here.<BR/><BR/>TommTommhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06072854015300215347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-13662578334078411852007-10-06T19:00:00.000-04:002007-10-06T19:00:00.000-04:00Spreading your nonsense around I see wilson.His ai...Spreading your nonsense around I see wilson.<BR/><BR/>His aim was to give Dion info, before he travelled there. Seems reasonable to me.<BR/><BR/>Your almighty leader wouldn't do that of course. The only person he listens to is himself s we all know. I can see him flicking advisors away who offer to lay some groundwork, like flies.<BR/><BR/>Are they only there for the day? Headlines are suggesting that they are there to celebrate Thanksgiving with the troops. Hmmm, who did that not too long ago? Wait for pic's of Bernie, (as you called him, lol) and Oda serving turkey and pouring gravy.<BR/><BR/>wilson, they have blown this one big time. What you guy's fail to realise is how Canadians rally to underdogs and cut down tall poppies. Pun very much intended.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-7853921427111797772007-10-06T18:11:00.000-04:002007-10-06T18:11:00.000-04:00Bernie and Oda went to KABUL to meet with Karzai. ...Bernie and Oda went to KABUL to meet with Karzai. <BR/>They only today went to Kandahar, and just for the day.<BR/>It's beyond stupid to think the Government should make their plans around a Liberal publicity hound.<BR/><BR/>Wasn't Coderre the jerk that called Hillier a 'Conservative Prop'? And didn't he also march with Hamas?<BR/><BR/>Tell me again why it was so urgent for him to go to Afghan that he couldn't wait and accompany Dion in November.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-12028835644843473532007-10-06T16:55:00.000-04:002007-10-06T16:55:00.000-04:00His government back in 2001 did not give permissio...<I>His government back in 2001 did not give permission to Cheryl Gallant to accompany a group of MPs to Afghanistan.</I><BR/><BR/>Remind me again when she became the Defense critic?Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-15421266382934497532007-10-06T12:20:00.000-04:002007-10-06T12:20:00.000-04:00the getting hurt argument doesn't hold water. Oda...the getting hurt argument doesn't hold water. Oda is in Afghanistan right now.<BR/><BR/>Oda.<BR/><BR/>This is Stevie trying to control the message and use the The Mission™ as his own "rah rah" cheer us on event.900ft Jesushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882830831096870992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-76260776897051267902007-10-06T12:11:00.000-04:002007-10-06T12:11:00.000-04:00Cheryl Gallant? Now I understand why. This lady ...Cheryl Gallant? Now I understand why. This lady is as flaky as they come and she'd be more than willing to lie for Harper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-13434496609141886132007-10-06T11:23:00.000-04:002007-10-06T11:23:00.000-04:00ottlibYou can copy and paste that comment to every...ottlib<BR/><BR/>You can copy and paste that comment to every discussion of the government :)Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-19491234833603482332007-10-06T11:18:00.000-04:002007-10-06T11:18:00.000-04:00"On the flip side, this is not the first time an o..."On the flip side, this is not the first time an oppostion member (or members) have gone to Afghanistan since 911 without the permission of parliament."<BR/><BR/>Irrelevant. Coderre sought permission, and wanted to tour the base.<BR/><BR/>The dodge and weave is what's comical.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-30263684540981449992007-10-06T11:16:00.000-04:002007-10-06T11:16:00.000-04:00"That is the greatest distinction of the man. Ever..."That is the greatest distinction of the man. Everything for him is a political calculation, with the benefits to Canadians being far down on the list of priorities."<BR/><BR/>Sorry to post the same thing in two comments Steve but the above statement, by me from another string, applies here.<BR/><BR/>That is what is at the heart of this matter. With their own folks going their they can control the message but with an opposition fellow going they lose control.<BR/><BR/>As the Conservatives have demonstrated many times they do not want to debate they want to dictate. That is more easily facilitated if you have control of the information necessary to have a debate.<BR/><BR/>So, this crew has placed partisan political considerations above the safety of a fellow Parliamentarian.<BR/><BR/>As you say, small, and I would add outrageous.ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-14356002506360180452007-10-06T11:12:00.000-04:002007-10-06T11:12:00.000-04:00The politics of this is quite comical on both side...The politics of this is quite comical on both sides. Coderre acts like this is the first time that anyone in opposition was ever rejected (or not given permission) to accompany the government on a fact finding mission in Afghanistan. Give me a break. His government back in 2001 did not give permission to Cheryl Gallant to accompany a group of MPs to Afghanistan.<BR/><BR/>On the flip side, this is not the first time an oppostion member (or members) have gone to Afghanistan since 911 without the permission of parliament. In 2001, a group of MPs sponsored by Samaritan's Purse entered the hot zone to see how the humanitarian effort was fairing firsthand (Operation Christmas Child boxes).<BR/><BR/>http://www.mydy.com/occ2001/articles.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-84454355729980196072007-10-06T10:06:00.000-04:002007-10-06T10:06:00.000-04:00He could have been allowed to go over with Bernier...He could have been allowed to go over with Bernier and Oda - what are they hiding?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1672684804460851412007-10-06T09:55:00.000-04:002007-10-06T09:55:00.000-04:00"Contrast Denis Coderre's expected cold-shoulder u..."Contrast Denis Coderre's expected cold-shoulder unwelcome with the red-carpeted runway greeting for Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier, who will land in Kandahar in the next few days if he's not there already."Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-60068607268221607542007-10-06T09:40:00.000-04:002007-10-06T09:40:00.000-04:00What if Maxime Bernier or Bev Oda are kidnapped ov...What if Maxime Bernier or Bev Oda are kidnapped over there?<BR/><BR/>Mackay is a f****king hypocrite!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com