tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post3577004751694271681..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Liberals "Set Trap" For ConservativesSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-5844760103580624342010-02-12T09:56:18.226-05:002010-02-12T09:56:18.226-05:00What a GENIUS, that guy. LOL.What a GENIUS, that guy. LOL.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-63861524304899887032010-02-12T09:47:07.294-05:002010-02-12T09:47:07.294-05:00Well even the Christian Conservative has admitted ...Well even the Christian Conservative has admitted there was lost time.<br />http://canadaconservative.blogspot.com/2010/02/liberals-opposed-to-extending-session.htmlJerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-55650145987407597602010-02-11T16:55:25.230-05:002010-02-11T16:55:25.230-05:00It's not like these are obstructionist demands...It's not like these are obstructionist demands, they're measured and constructive, if you actually take the Cons at their word. Cough.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-69117014686244512602010-02-11T16:01:33.576-05:002010-02-11T16:01:33.576-05:00given the media tipping point Steve pointed to yes...given the media tipping point Steve pointed to yesterday, I think the Liberals are safe in making demands that are reasonable and constructive<br /><br />if Harper says no, the new media environment means some will likely spank him<br /><br />and even if the Libs agree w/o getting their demands met, it will look like Harper is yet again the bully as people are starting to pay attentionNorthern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-5813369751253261642010-02-11T14:53:07.091-05:002010-02-11T14:53:07.091-05:00I think that's the weakest of tea. I don'...I think that's the weakest of tea. I don't share your concern, I think we've cornered them with these reasonable demands.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-27999919039234286682010-02-11T14:46:49.427-05:002010-02-11T14:46:49.427-05:00But this is always their game!
All they say is th...But this is always their game!<br /><br />All they say is that the Liberals are making demands before they give up their vacation and that the opposition days are probably because Ignatieff wants the opportunity to bring down the government.<br /><br />They've never felt the need to say something coherent or true.Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06441711770772926643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-59559047897513011472010-02-11T14:43:01.630-05:002010-02-11T14:43:01.630-05:00Oh okay, asking for Ministers to be ACCOUNTABLE wi...Oh okay, asking for Ministers to be ACCOUNTABLE will really blow in the Liberals face. And, last time I checked, more time in Parliament, more opposition days.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-75411469716183311632010-02-11T14:31:15.719-05:002010-02-11T14:31:15.719-05:00Except for the opposition days and "full avai...Except for the opposition days and "full availability" of ministers.<br /><br />How about if I say that they should have <i>only</i> asked for the detainee commission to come back immediately?Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06441711770772926643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-75385837298400155552010-02-11T14:19:35.473-05:002010-02-11T14:19:35.473-05:00"Won't the PMO argue that, since their re..."Won't the PMO argue that, since their recalibration was totally legit, this demonstrates that the Liberals don't actually care about working, since they're making demands?"<br /><br />Except all of these demands offer ways to make Parliament work faster. If you're arguing that there is much work to do, as the Cons have when they put this cancellation out, pretty hard to reject measures which SPEED up Parliament. Maybe they won't like what we want to speed up, but they can't make the argument you suggest- these are all constructive proposals.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-29689352884055223162010-02-11T14:04:17.143-05:002010-02-11T14:04:17.143-05:00While these demands are certainly reasonable ones,...While these demands are certainly reasonable ones, I always get a little queasy when the Liberals start demanding things of this government. Bullishly talking the talk has all to often manifested itself in taking a pass on walking the walk.Omarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12058734544373976550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-29325209913433761402010-02-11T13:56:54.487-05:002010-02-11T13:56:54.487-05:00Won't the PMO argue that, since their recalibr...Won't the PMO argue that, since their recalibration was totally legit, this demonstrates that the Liberals don't actually care about working, since they're making demands?<br /><br />Obviously <i>I</i> think it's stupid, just assuming that'll be the talking points.Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06441711770772926643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-2277454798765721122010-02-11T13:53:11.553-05:002010-02-11T13:53:11.553-05:00If the PMO turns it down they will look like huge ...If the PMO turns it down they will look like huge douches.<br /><br />1) Vacations will still be on, and<br />2) They will look bad for blocking the committees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-48933154798107302782010-02-11T13:50:56.858-05:002010-02-11T13:50:56.858-05:00Why wouldn't they agree to work? Where's ...Why wouldn't they agree to work? Where's the downside in that?Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-63877127796617717842010-02-11T13:47:08.569-05:002010-02-11T13:47:08.569-05:00The only possible weak point is they're demand...The only possible weak point is they're demanding it in exchange for their agreement to work through their vacation.Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06441711770772926643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-69096192363266187522010-02-11T13:40:09.471-05:002010-02-11T13:40:09.471-05:00I love it!
Not only is it a great tactical manoeuv...I love it!<br />Not only is it a great tactical manoeuvre, but it's the right thing to do.<br /><br />Great job OLO!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-3465570720342695382010-02-11T13:29:13.882-05:002010-02-11T13:29:13.882-05:00The thing is, these demands are entirely fair and ...The thing is, these demands are entirely fair and actually challenge the Conservatives to back up their rhetoric with agreement. Their MP's are running around saying the Committee can do it's work, they can start all Committee's up straight away, so they really have no choice but to agree.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-34672203026698024452010-02-11T13:18:48.376-05:002010-02-11T13:18:48.376-05:00Steve
When I saw yesterdays Iggy letter to the BC ...Steve<br />When I saw yesterdays Iggy letter to the BC MPPs and todays' item here, my ego took over and I couldn't help but think this:<br />The OLO read MY comments in YOUR blog back on Feb 3 and got some backbone! ;-)<br /><br />"Of course the opposition will agree to the changes. But they should extract a price:<br />* committee restart minus the sabotage manual and tatics<br />* gov't complies with House order for info on detainees<br />* some contrition re prorogation (vague promise not to do it again would suffice)<br /><br />meet the bullying arrogance with appropriately targeted and reasonable demands that will further expose these aspiring autocrats for what they are"Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.com