tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post3818400665060744940..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Harper Winning The Environment Battle?Steve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-68619190935112947082007-03-08T18:11:00.000-05:002007-03-08T18:11:00.000-05:00Steve,I hate to say I told you so, but I totally t...Steve,<BR/><BR/>I hate to say I told you so, but I totally told you so.Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12434267803807108634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-70588251101068677122007-03-08T17:03:00.000-05:002007-03-08T17:03:00.000-05:00It may still be an issue, but its a classic race t...It may still be an issue, but its a classic race to the bottom type of issue. Steve has it right, the environment is done, except for sniping.<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/>lancelancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481248175442820597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-77581908412312975642007-03-08T15:23:00.000-05:002007-03-08T15:23:00.000-05:00GW isn't an election issue yet, not really. It's i...GW isn't an election issue yet, not really. It's in people's minds and it matters to them, irrespective of their position vis a vis the man made aspects of it all but it's not a government breaker. <BR/><BR/>It won't really be a government breaker until weird violent weather events start hitting more regions. Or sea level rises start being more noticeable. Until GW starts becoming an undeniable discomfort in peoples lives.<BR/><BR/>As big banks, insurance firms and even oil companies start accepting that the science is solid and as undeniably valid a theory as gravity the overall mood regarding action will shift among governments but the action itself will not be very meaningful until Jack and Jill Headupass become more directly discomforted or inconvenienced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-79104344618885568462007-03-08T15:16:00.000-05:002007-03-08T15:16:00.000-05:00Mr. Harper has succeeded in putting out the immedi...Mr. Harper has succeeded in putting out the immediate fire that came about as a result of Ms. Ambrose and his disasterous Clean Air Act. However, he has not eliminated it as an issue.<BR/><BR/>The environment is now part of the Canadian consciousness and it is not going anywhere. It will be an issue in the election and it will probably be a major issue because Mr. Dion will make it so along with his other two pillars.<BR/><BR/>So, it remains to be seen how Mr. Harper will manage the issue when he no longer has the monopoly of coverage and his environmental policy proposals are placed next to the Liberal policy proposals on a nightly basis. <BR/><BR/>I stated last week on my own blog that the Conservatives have not deeply established their chops on the environment file amongst the electorate and that will still likely be true by the time of the election. That will be a weakness if the environment becomes one of the central issues of the election.ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-71123119857638486312007-03-08T11:52:00.000-05:002007-03-08T11:52:00.000-05:00"Is Harper "winning"? Hm, I don't know - but he's ..."Is Harper "winning"? Hm, I don't know - but he's certainly not losing."<BR/><BR/>That's winning, negation is the goal.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-71573604608024752682007-03-08T11:49:00.000-05:002007-03-08T11:49:00.000-05:00Well, you know already that I'm a diehard environm...Well, you know already that I'm a diehard environmental supporter and voter who is not convinced Kyoto is an answer. Is Harper "winning"? Hm, I don't know - but he's certainly not <I>losing</I>. This is an occasion I agree with Coyne - voters don't want extremists, they'd rather a party who is forced to act rather than is lustful to act. He used the example of picking the Liberals to slash spending - not the Conservatives. Who would you rather have slash the budget? So who would you rather have deal with the environment?<BR/><BR/>It's a good comparison, to me it really rang true. And Dion is backing the wrong pony with Kyoto.<BR/><BR/>But, Dion has LOADS of time to get his footing. The election is not too too imminent, I don't think.<BR/><BR/>And I understand Dion's english perfectly - what's the big deal with it???Jacques Beau Verthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450947780950412676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-10695013649400910562007-03-08T11:23:00.000-05:002007-03-08T11:23:00.000-05:00That's why it's imperative that Mr. Dion articulat...That's why it's imperative that Mr. Dion articulate his vision clearly. More clearly than he has been doing since the leadership campaign. <BR/><BR/>If you read Mr. Dion's vision for sustainability (Building a Sustainable Future for Canada) it provides a much more comprehensive vision for Canada than Mr. Harper's dollars for votes initiatives of late. What Mr. Harper is doing is great but it is by no means a plan. <BR/><BR/>In moving back to talking about sustainability Mr. Dion can also broaden that agenda and (hopefully) show how Mr. Harper's "plan" is deficient. It won't be easy. The one big barrier that Mr. Dion has to overcome is his English.Kim Feradayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02971613301669856764noreply@blogger.com