tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post4730450213922663238..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Canada Wins?Steve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-11302129336065780292007-03-27T14:01:00.000-04:002007-03-27T14:01:00.000-04:00daniel:The PLQ is lead by a former Red Tory and it...daniel:<BR/><BR/>The PLQ is lead by a former Red Tory and it has some elements of it that would be considered right-of-centre but in general it is a progressive party.<BR/><BR/>To use the analogy of the federal scene the ADQ is the CPC, the PQ is the NDP and the PLQ is the Federal Liberals.<BR/><BR/>As for the PLQ's ties with the CPC I would point out that it had those very same ties with the Federal Liberals when they were in power. They moved when the Liberals lost power and they will move back when the Liberals regain power. The PLQ will establish ties with whatever party is in power in Ottawa and not care about ideology.ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-4280765542410472792007-03-27T12:28:00.000-04:002007-03-27T12:28:00.000-04:00I stand corrected on Charest.I stand corrected on Charest.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-78875359660257562392007-03-27T10:03:00.000-04:002007-03-27T10:03:00.000-04:00As well, it should be noted that 70% of Quebecers ...<I>As well, it should be noted that 70% of Quebecers voted for progressive parties tonight</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>I'm sorry, but the PQ, Greens and QS only garnered about 40% of the vote between them. <BR/><BR/>60% of Quebecers voted for either a center-right or a far-right party; hardly a victory for "progressives". Calling the Liberal Party of Quebec "progressive" is laughable at best, considering the innumerable ties it has with the federal Conservatives.<BR/><BR/>This result is probably the best Harper could have hoped for; he still has Charest as premier, but as a bonus, he has a very conservative leader of the opposition to top it off.danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16941331790158166428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-23660056748073603312007-03-27T08:36:00.000-04:002007-03-27T08:36:00.000-04:00I'm not so sure the Adequistes will be able to hol...I'm not so sure the Adequistes will be able to hold it together. They only had 5 seats last time so they don't have much parliamentary experience and party discipline may be a problem for them, as it was for the List Fortuyn in Holland before they imploded after his murder.Mark Dowlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01399115211805036553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-80246002643632995942007-03-26T23:45:00.000-04:002007-03-26T23:45:00.000-04:00Charest didn't lose his seat. Or at any rate not y...Charest didn't lose his seat. Or at any rate not yet but CTV has called it for him with only about 15 precincts left to count.<BR/><BR/>Craig Oliver typically is calling this great news for Harper and assuring everyone that this means a spring federal election. Last week he was saying a Liberal win would be great news and would yada yada. The week before he was saying a PQ win would be great for Harper and would mean yada yada...like, whatever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-88885492943713322632007-03-26T23:28:00.000-04:002007-03-26T23:28:00.000-04:00Dumont gives me the creeps. This government won't...Dumont gives me the creeps. This government won't last and during this time Duceppe will become PQ leader and then watch out!<BR/><BR/>Don't Quebecers know what they want?<BR/><BR/>What a mess. How much is this going to keep costing us?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-89445805500970975212007-03-26T22:57:00.000-04:002007-03-26T22:57:00.000-04:00I am not so certain.Mario Dumont supported the Yes...I am not so certain.<BR/><BR/>Mario Dumont supported the Yes side in the last referendum. He chided Mr. Charest during this election for not getting enough out of Ottawa in terms of money and power. He believes in autonomy for Quebec, which for him means Quebec becomes a country in every way but name but it still receives all of the goodies it is currently receiving from Ottawa.<BR/><BR/>I do not like the PQ but I will say this for them. They were generally open and honest about their goals, if not in their methods of achieving them. Mr. Dumont is not.<BR/><BR/>As for the federal scene no party can take any solace in tonight's results. The vote is virtually split three ways. No federal party can say they have a clear advantage. <BR/><BR/>As well, this result is just going to confuse Canadians. With the drubbing the PLQ took tonight, including the defeat of Jean Charest, the Conservatives are going to have a hard time spinning this as a great victory for Mr. Harper's political strategy.<BR/><BR/>As well, it should be noted that 70% of Quebecers voted for progressive parties tonight and it is an open question as to how many ADQ votes were votes for them or votes against the old parties so I do not think Conservatives should be thinking that this is really the beginning of a Conservative wave.<BR/><BR/>Indeed, if the question in Quebec during the next federal election hinges on the different social, crime, environmental, and fiscal policies of the Conservatives and the Liberals as opposed to sovereignty or fiscal imbalance then I would say the Liberals would have the advantage.ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-43678831963670710572007-03-26T22:51:00.000-04:002007-03-26T22:51:00.000-04:00"Dumont is an unknown, but has no appetite for ref..."Dumont is an unknown, but has no appetite for referendums and division."<BR/>But it's fine that he has played the racist, LePeniste, demagogic card as long as he doesn't disturb the comfortable Liberal reality?Lepthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12300425802850862584noreply@blogger.com