tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post4978919989012121441..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Ipsos PollSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-10692886844320380862008-05-04T11:11:00.000-04:002008-05-04T11:11:00.000-04:00Liberals ahead of the Tories in Quebec by 6%?Yikes...Liberals ahead of the Tories in Quebec by 6%?<BR/><BR/>Yikes. Why even publish the poll?<BR/><BR/>The Ontario numbers are also quite startling. Tories have office raided, and catch up in Ontario!<BR/><BR/>The poll released last week showing Jean Charest in majority territory may have something to do with this.<BR/><BR/>The Bloc hovering around or below 30% is the best news yet. If Dion and Harper can make enough of a case in their respective strongholds, it could get really ugly for Gilles Duceppe. The NDP votes will rally to the strongest federalist candidateAnthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04018582124108708061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-71082253999296628022008-05-03T16:48:00.000-04:002008-05-03T16:48:00.000-04:00Let's be perfectly clear, I despise Harper and his...Let's be perfectly clear, I despise Harper and his gang of incompetent school yard bullies. Although, I have a feeling that little twerp Pierre got a pounding or two in his day. I believe much like Bush, that historians will rate this Con government as one of the worst in the history of this country. As a matter of reference, I do hold a membership, donate monthly and go to various events. <BR/><BR/>However, I am going to call a spade a spade and say the main reason the Libs are abstaining is because they have no confidence in Dion. You could also say that they lack financing and organization, but once again that can be attributed to the leader. I watch politics pretty closing by watching QP daily, keeping up with the news and going to the odd event. I have been to a few events where Dion has attended and his performances are very wooden and uninspiring. His performance in daily QP is quite frankly dreadful and he is continually outshined by his other colleagues. How else can you explain the fact that the polls continue to have no movement despite all the Con screw-ups, scandals and regressive policies? The RCMP raided their headquarters and still the Cons remain at around 35%! Do we think a summer on the bbq circuit is going to make a big difference? In fact it has been proven that the Cons numbers go up when parliament is not sitting!<BR/><BR/>Having said alllll that, I think if Dion could fluke out a minority, that he would make a very good prime minister, because of his intelligence and of his compassion. In addition he has a very strong and progressive team behind him. The question is whether the voters can see past the absent minded professor image and give the man and the party a chance? Doubtful at this point. However, I was also down on the Jays and they seem to have rebounded for the time being.liberazzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14798202757576009552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-42666013007901034872008-05-03T15:04:00.000-04:002008-05-03T15:04:00.000-04:00rightThe negative press? Are you sniffing glue, t...right<BR/><BR/>The negative press? Are you sniffing glue, the Liberals have had MOUNTAINS more negative press than the Conservatives.<BR/><BR/>I can't take you seriously, please move on....Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-30290139657961173832008-05-03T10:43:00.000-04:002008-05-03T10:43:00.000-04:00"All I have to say, thank-god for Stephen Harper. ..."All I have to say, thank-god for Stephen Harper. Weak and ineffective, yet the Conservatives are stuck below their 2006 total, others well back. It really does point to the fact- Canadians just don't like Harper and his merry band of incompetents."<BR/><BR/>Steve lets recap at the negative press that this government has received in the last 2 years. Shall we?<BR/><BR/>Not necessarily in this order but you get the picture. The Kelowna accord,Afghan detainees,Chalk river,the Brenda Martin case,Kyoto accord,the Cadman affair and the so called "In And Out." <BR/>With the opposition parties pounding away at the Conservatives day in and day out in Question period,I think it's pretty amazing to me that the Conservatives are where they are in poll after poll. The fact of it all the liberals are afraid of an election. <BR/><BR/>To Anonymous post 9:59 a.m.:<BR/><BR/>"right.... gee, how about using your own words instead of Harper's talking points. Really makes you look uninformed.<BR/><BR/>Dion weak? I wonder. He takes a pounding day in day out and is still standing."<BR/><BR/>Now anon do you think that liberazzi is a Conservative? This is what he said about you're so called leader:<BR/><BR/>"The Libs overall strategic planning right now is dreadful and I think it is reflected in the polls at the moment. However, I guess they are doing their best to make-up for a weak and ineffective leader."<BR/><BR/>Read it anon its post 8:11 a.m. At least liberazzi had the courage to say it like it is. But anon don't let the facts get in you're way. Thanks for making my point that some on the liberal blogs cannot see the facts about Mr.S.Dion,because they are so blinded by hate against this government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-32367169388041452982008-05-03T09:59:00.000-04:002008-05-03T09:59:00.000-04:00right.... gee, how about using your own words inst...right.... gee, how about using your own words instead of Harper's talking points. Really makes you look uninformed.<BR/><BR/>Dion weak? I wonder. He takes a pounding day in day out and is still standing.<BR/><BR/>Harper - pouts, gets other to fight for him and even doesn't show up in the House when it gets a little too tough.<BR/><BR/>A person that is paranoid is "weak" - Harper is a total paranoid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-72026651858712603022008-05-03T09:00:00.000-04:002008-05-03T09:00:00.000-04:00rightAll I have to say, thank-god for Stephen Harp...right<BR/><BR/>All I have to say, thank-god for Stephen Harper. Weak and ineffective, yet the Conservatives are stuck below their 2006 total, others well back. It really does point to the fact- Canadians just don't like Harper and his merry band of incompetents.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-91564143938137568422008-05-03T08:45:00.000-04:002008-05-03T08:45:00.000-04:00Well, time for a Nanos poll.I'm not surprised abou...Well, time for a Nanos poll.<BR/><BR/>I'm not surprised about the NDP and BLOC - they are the same - socialist parties - only one is a separatist group. Their political beliefs are the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-69476792678328649442008-05-03T08:43:00.000-04:002008-05-03T08:43:00.000-04:00Finally a liberal supporter (liberazzi) sees wha...Finally a liberal supporter (liberazzi) sees what Mr.S.Dion really is,that is a weak and ineffective leader.<BR/><BR/>There are other liberal blogs who are so blinded by hate against this government that they cannot see the truth when it is starring right into their faces.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-13212045546653526872008-05-03T08:11:00.000-04:002008-05-03T08:11:00.000-04:00These are a bit of odd results, considering what h...These are a bit of odd results, considering what has been going on. Regardless of what you may think of the various Ipsos results, it shows that there is no real movement as you stated, which should be concerning to the Libs. However, I think the "strategic patience" strategy is still working against the Libs, plus the whole leadership question that continues to plague them at the moment. These questions will come to the forefront again this week or the next when they inevitably abstain on immigration or censorship, which will pretty much kill any momentum they may be gaining, in spite of these results. <BR/><BR/>Furthermore, if the Libs are hoping the economy will tank later this year, which in turn will theoretically give them a boost, isn't that somewhat crass to hope to cash in on the misfortunes of others i.e. the voters?<BR/><BR/>Finally, I like the idea of tax shifting. In fact, they are basically stealing the idea from the Greens. Yet, once again most Canadians will not go past the headline of what would appear to be a new tax. The plan then is to abstain and then once again do the bbq circuit, promoting this idea, which most voters will forget about when the election is finally called. The Libs overall strategic planning right now is dreadful and I think it is reflected in the polls at the moment. However, I guess they are doing their best to make-up for a weak and ineffective leader.liberazzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14798202757576009552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-32487180253296924652008-05-02T23:01:00.000-04:002008-05-02T23:01:00.000-04:00The thing with Ipsos, they had a statistical tie i...The thing with Ipsos, they had a statistical tie in late March, and since then the Libs have dropped 4, while the Cons haven't moved. You could certainly make arguments why the Libs may have dropped, but I find it very hard to believe that the Cons maintain during what has been the roughest patch for the government. That dynamic also tends to fly in the face of what others have shown. <BR/><BR/>You are probably right, in that Quebec and Ontario are off, in the wrong directions, essentially cancelling each other out, but there other provinces where they still might have it wrong. I guess what I'm saying, no fallout for the Cons, while the Libs fade seems counter-intuitive- if abstaining is eroding, that means people have noticed, which also means they have also noticed the Con amateur hour. Doesn't pass the smell test with me.<BR/><BR/>One thing that might be real, and this is clearly borne out elsewhere, the NDP seems to have some momentum in Quebec. A lot of Quebecers do seem to be fishing around.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-39283305574644844992008-05-02T20:47:00.000-04:002008-05-02T20:47:00.000-04:00I think that the overall national numbers may be c...I think that the overall national numbers may be correct, but Ipsos is just embarrassing themselves with those Ontario and Quebec numbers.<BR/><BR/>The Tories may not 20 points behind the Libs in Ontario, but they aren't 2 points behind either. Somewhere between 6 and 10 is probably accurate<BR/><BR/>In Quebec, you just had Leger and CROP confirm the basic levels (27% or so for the Tories, 20% for the Libs) and those number areas are based on regional strengths. Ipsos obviously had a few too many Montreal respondents in their sample to give the Libs 26%.<BR/><BR/>So 34-30 it probably is, which means no Spring election, and I am not happy about that. I'm torn between who i want to win (except for the NDP of course), but I need some fresh ideas from both of the big 2.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com