tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post5057614471829959222..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: The Liberal "Messiah"Steve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-49608150940376818292011-10-20T13:51:40.363-04:002011-10-20T13:51:40.363-04:00Yeah, Harper wasn't the guy who built Reform. ...Yeah, Harper wasn't the guy who built Reform. That was Manning, and Manning's old supporters have always groused about how Harper betrayed everything Manning stood for. <br /><br />As for Layton and Quebec...that wasn't just leadership. That was also planning, patience, wit and a certain level of zealotry towards an ideal. All of those things need to be present in the party as much as in the leader.<br /><br />The problem with seeking a Messiah is that you're never going to find Him. You're just going to find a person. Like Harper, like McGuinty, like Harris, and like other successful leaders, they're quite possibly going to lose their first election. A good rebuilder might never even be prime minister. That's just how it works, and part of the problem is just how impatient the party has been. <br /><br />Oh, and considering that the last "Messiah" was Ignatieff, I'd be pretty careful in looking for another one. His "disciples" didn't help much.CraigBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712485549694927846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-59112849176996968792011-10-17T19:38:04.374-04:002011-10-17T19:38:04.374-04:00Yeah, but they're also suppose to be good at r...Yeah, but they're also suppose to be good at resurrections. ;)sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-44602192591941560342011-10-17T16:56:09.670-04:002011-10-17T16:56:09.670-04:00Messiahs are too easily crucified. Do the Liberal...Messiahs are too easily crucified. Do the Liberals really want to witness Harper's Legions nail up another one? I sure don't.Omarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12058734544373976550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1035437768652769212011-10-17T13:23:16.931-04:002011-10-17T13:23:16.931-04:00The checkered past :)The checkered past :)Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-17654391465707637702011-10-17T12:54:33.738-04:002011-10-17T12:54:33.738-04:00YOU can be that person !!!!!!!!!!!YOU can be that person !!!!!!!!!!!Damehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15548065189088501935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-30184845687871942132011-10-17T12:05:32.341-04:002011-10-17T12:05:32.341-04:00I don't think Harper was the Conservative mess...I don't think Harper was the Conservative messiah - but he was good enough. He was smart and hardworking (as Flanagan's book shows), and stuck around for more than one election before winning a minority and three before winning a majority.<br /><br />I think we broadly agree but the word "messiah" implies some magical touch that, while it can't hurt, typically isn't actually required. I'm not saying we shouldn't pick one up if it comes along, but I also don't think we should fold up the tent if we don't find one.Adrian Ludwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16099820007287910315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-55984449533729777582011-10-17T08:27:13.493-04:002011-10-17T08:27:13.493-04:00Thanks. Was away on Saturday, would have loved to...Thanks. Was away on Saturday, would have loved to check out the demonstrations as well.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-9670477570607483862011-10-17T08:25:09.362-04:002011-10-17T08:25:09.362-04:00Hey, missed you at the Prog blog meet up.
Alway...Hey, missed you at the Prog blog meet up. <br /><br />Always enjoy your blog.rickyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17824176585273550263noreply@blogger.com