tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post5066824884148674738..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: The Right Wing MediaSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-26342203570334317152011-05-11T19:57:52.014-04:002011-05-11T19:57:52.014-04:00Welcome to the territory the Greens have become qu...Welcome to the territory the Greens have become quite familiar with.Saskboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13258259356749068135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-24075363864475747192011-05-09T17:57:51.746-04:002011-05-09T17:57:51.746-04:00Oh, and just wanted to say, Liberals shouldn't...Oh, and just wanted to say, Liberals shouldn't NOT deal with the Big Three Con media corps,just deal with one person from each, draw attention to the structure of the Big three; talk about Keith Davies and his 1971 concentration of media warnings, talk about what they own, who they control, no point in talking to more than three people, draw attention to the the fact that the Big three are essentially the majority of the Consortium too, so, no more debates controlled by the onsortium, go to parliamentary channel for debates, gongs for lies in debates. Bring it all into focus.Jerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-36523672205997135732011-05-09T17:54:31.637-04:002011-05-09T17:54:31.637-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-60258465791154959232011-05-09T03:32:37.286-04:002011-05-09T03:32:37.286-04:00William
you keep on referring to a 2006 attack ...William <br /><br />you keep on referring to a 2006 attack ad that was never aired as proof that the Liberals were the first ones to adopt Republican style attacks in Canada. <br /><br />You such a funny guy. Hyperbole and demagogy Conservative is my middle name. <br /><br />"Today, Martin says he's against child pornography. But his voting record proves otherwise," <br /><br />Stephen Harper of course never apologized, but the press release was retracted. Stephen Harper: "What's in bad taste is the Liberal Party's record on child pornography.<br /><br />The following went out at the same time and was never retracted. "The NDP Caucus Supports Child Pornography?"<br /><br />This only goes to prove the Conservatives only retracted the first because of the media firestorm.Kobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03407275645274060038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-90949960964542266632011-05-09T00:57:35.118-04:002011-05-09T00:57:35.118-04:00Or do you all forget "Soldiers in the Streets...<i>Or do you all forget "Soldiers in the Streets", as the Martin Liberals sought to adopt American Style attack ads. </i><br /><br />I remember that that ad never ran. It was rejected by leaked to the media by someone.<br /><br />And your idea that the Conservatives somehow were only copying the Liberals is overlooking how they have adopted most of the Republican playbook from naming legislation with warm and fuzzy names to robo-calling to suppress voters to every other Rovian tactic we've seen down south.<br /><br />The Liberals haven't lead this move. They've been too late in seeing how the Conservatives have been charging full ahead with such tactics.Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04876442776701189706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-45553995845082164012011-05-09T00:48:49.894-04:002011-05-09T00:48:49.894-04:00Besides which, by the time the Tories are done 5 y...Besides which, by the time the Tories are done 5 years from now, most of the crown corps will have a very different face on them.<br /><br />Particularly the CBC... it's about to get back to its roots like never before.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11578761610925019930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-14550707162925694132011-05-09T00:36:52.977-04:002011-05-09T00:36:52.977-04:00Western Grit, if you run on that concept, your jus...Western Grit, if you run on that concept, your just perpetuating the very shit that got the Liberal party its ass kicked in the first place.<br /><br />Voters want to know why you are different, and getting into the mud in the next election won't do that.<br /><br />Don't take shit lying down, but don't shovel shit either.<br /><br />Ack! Look at the time. Have a nice night.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11578761610925019930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-55079105216070309502011-05-09T00:19:04.580-04:002011-05-09T00:19:04.580-04:00Since 1993 I listened to the Conservatives/Reforme...Since 1993 I listened to the Conservatives/Reformers/Alliance talk about the "left-wing media" bogeyman. Nothing of the sort existed then (perhaps a free local paper or two). <br /><br />Fact is, corporations have interests that tend to best be aided by the conservative/right wing side of the spectrum. Media in Canada is in the hands of 4 or 5 very Conservative families and their corporations. It's beyond just corporate ownership... The media is "powned" by individual families. <br /><br />We simply need to repeat the Conservative Mantra:<br />1) Include a slam of the Conservative Party in EVERY sentence ad infinitum.<br />2) Include a shot at the "right-wing media" in EVERY sentence.<br /><br />Eventually, the media - out of defensiveness - or simply to avoid public scrutiny - MIGHT start throwing a few tidbits our way.WesternGrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06658358114507615351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-3438330230603891392011-05-09T00:09:59.851-04:002011-05-09T00:09:59.851-04:00That is exactly the right question, because you ca...That is exactly the right question, because you can't change the past, you can only look forward now.<br /><br />I took out a Liberal Membership today for that very question, and my own desire to help bring the center back.<br /><br />That said, you need to really ask yourself, did the center actually go away?<br /><br />Remember Steve, the muddled middle, the teaming mass', the most eccentric voting population in the world, simply because they aren't eccentric.<br /><br />This is the moment for people like yourself to shine Steve, because with renewal will come great possibility.<br /><br />First start small... never run on a big tent idea. Run on small, easily digested concepts that appeal to a broad spectrum.<br /><br />For example, Daycare. <br /><br />Personally, I'm against it, but that isn't because I'm all about having choice for my children. It's because I'm a cheap bastard who doesn't have children and doesn't want to pay for yours. Others want choice, and fear a big tent concept. <br /><br />For example, Sweden's system is always touted by the NDP, and the Liberals, but because these parties think the voting population is inherently stupid, they don't bother to contrast the reality of the Swedish system, which is that after 35 years even the Swedish government admits publicly that it was a really bad idea.<br /><br />That doesn't mean it has to stay a bad idea, and the Liberals could have worked hard to show the voters how National Daycare could have been improved to avoid the pitfalls the Swedish are suffering from now.<br /><br />Lesson number one for the Liberal party: Stop assuming the electorate are stupid... by and large they are, but not nearly as much as the MSM and the Liberal party think. <br /><br />Most of the really stupid voters vote NDP... which is why sans a Quebec rebellion against the bloc, they will always be a fringe party... unless the Liberals screw up over the next five years.<br /><br />If your agenda, for example, is to achieve National Daycare, well start smaller.<br /><br />How about a national lunch program for students first. <br /><br />There is over 1 million children in our nation not getting enough food every day. That is something a cheap bastard like me can vote for, and virtually everyone else as well.<br /><br />Then, when you are in a majority situation again, you simply expand the existing program.<br /><br />Read about our social nets... see how they grew into what they are today, and you'll see that I'm dead on in this regard. <br /><br />Healthcare wasn't the program it is today when it was initiated... we simply aggrandize and romance that it was.<br /><br />Pensions, EI (formerly UI), and virtually every other national program started small and grew over time.<br /><br />Why? Because it's easy to get people to support small measures. Large measures generate to much debate and are devisive by nature.<br /><br />That's rule number two: Until you are in a majority, with 4 to 5 years to help people forget, never campaign on concepts that polarize the voters.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11578761610925019930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-88777623033277853902011-05-08T23:47:29.191-04:002011-05-08T23:47:29.191-04:00Interesting comments today... most miss the mark, ...Interesting comments today... most miss the mark, but some have a smack of justice to them.<br /><br />The reality is that the Cons were treated more gently than the Liberals. <br /><br />I personally think that perhaps that is because the MSM had a higher, albeit unrealistic set of expectations of Iggy. <br /><br />In the end a large segment of the media, particularly in Ontario and Montreal, considered the Liberals the natural governing party as much as the Liberals did, and they conducted themselves on the assumption that the rest of the nation thought the same, and it bit them in the ass. <br /><br />Personally I think he was doomed to failure regardless of the media. As has been mentioned, the CPC did a pretty good job of demonizing him, but by the same token, the media inadvertently supported that by presenting the softer, gentler side of their own reporting on him. <br /><br />They should have gone after Iggy harder, with a nastier attitude, which would have had the benefit of forcing Iggy into watching himself much earlier on. <br /><br />His lack of a backbone in the earlier days of his leadership didn't do him any favors (The LPC won't support the CPC plan for this, that, and the other thing... until it's time to actually vote on them), and the media actually supported his flaccid stance on so many subjects by actually not pressing him.<br /><br />Pressing him would have achieved two very significant things: <br /><br />1) he would have been forced to defend himself, and in the process shown Canadians that he cared enough to rebuke the media and the press.<br /><br />2) he would have learned earlier on to keep his mouth shut until he loaded his gun, and not pay attention to the jack offs advising him, but rather listen to his own not inconsiderable intuition.<br /><br />Regardless, it's done now, and in the last 7 years the devolution of the media has become complete. They are a pack of ravenous dogs, looking for the next tidbit of a headline so they can get a dutiful pat on the head from their publishers and their contemporaries, who love and hate each other, one and the same.<br /><br />Today Jack's pres-schoolers are the subject of the day, tomorrow it will be some twit leaning to far to the right under Harper, the next day it will be Quebec bemoaning the fact that their votes counted for bugger all again, because unlike the past, Ontario didn't follow suit, but instead left Quebec holding the NDP bag with a Harper government and no strings attached to hold him to their needs.<br /><br />Irony is a bitch eh:)<br /><br />The campaigns were nasty, the attack ads even nastier, each party trying to out do the other, and the Liberal Party screaming blue (no pun) bloody murder about it, all the while forgetting that it was they themselves which built this boat that sailed without them.<br /><br />Or do you all forget "Soldiers in the Streets", as the Martin Liberals sought to adopt American Style attack ads. <br /><br />That's right kiddies, the Liberals were the architects of their own doom when it came to attack ads, by opening a Pandora's box and forgeting they didn't know how to close the lid.<br /><br />Put another way, the Martin Liberals carried the ball down to the 10 yard line, went for a pass, and got intercepted, and the Tories ran the ball right back down your throats.<br /><br />You give the voting mass' too little credit if you think the general population doesn't remember that. They may by and large be sheep, but they’re a comparatively highly educated flock, and to forget that is to stand in front of the herd when it charges or bolts. <br /><br />All that aside, because it is just water under the bridge now, I think Steve you actually postulated a question. What to do to revitalize the party?Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11578761610925019930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-33385645637844658372011-05-08T20:25:18.281-04:002011-05-08T20:25:18.281-04:00"Clue in, Steve et al. This isn't about m..."Clue in, Steve et al. This isn't about media bias. It's about a party on desperate need of repair. And pretending it's somehow the media's fault shows exactly how it got that way."<br /><br />Honestly, this shit is getting tiring. I've blogged forever about the internal problems of this party, so spare me the freaking lectures. When I've pointed to flaws in the past, people like you drop in to tell me I'm not a "good Liberal". Give it a rest.<br /><br />As for the media, it isn't just editorials, the 04, 06, 08, 11 campaigns all show more favourable coverage for the Conservatives, more negative for the Liberals. Liberals need to understand the landscape, nobody is saying we lost because, but it sure isn't an asset. As Koby articulated, Liberals have assumed they can get their message out through the media, they CAN'T, so lets figure out constructive ways to work around. You want to ignore that part of the equation, that's your prerogative, but it's also denial.<br /><br />Again, if you're getting some general sense and what to get all pissy here FINE, but your preaching to the choir. You also sound "whiny and moaning", which is funny given your thrust.<br /><br />Don't worry, I don't think we fix the media all is good, FAR, FAR from it. Please, it really is tiring.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-27032178073680956212011-05-08T20:09:00.395-04:002011-05-08T20:09:00.395-04:00How I love when the conspiracy theorists start in ...How I love when the conspiracy theorists start in on the "MSM" as if the media is one large amorphous mass, showing their ignorance of the difference between a newspaper's editorial stance and its reporting, and acting like there's some big blame game to play. Get a grip, folks. The issue is that the party just assumed it would remain in power forever, and did no future planning or regenerating.<br /><br />Clue in, Steve et al. This isn't about media bias. It's about a party on desperate need of repair. And pretending it's somehow the media's fault shows exactly how it got that way.<br /><br />The last week's whining and moaning and blaming external forces and talking about merging shows me a party that is not only broken, but has no business being in power until it figures out what it is. No one seems to give a damn about how to do that; with Michael Ignatieff's exception, they are all just looking for others to blame and the easiest route to winning - not the best way to become a viable party again. Right at the moment, given what I'm reading here and elsewhere, it is far less than the sum of it's parts.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08939359309885321925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-52541429047065794142011-05-08T19:21:37.407-04:002011-05-08T19:21:37.407-04:00I think Koby makes good points about challenging t...I think Koby makes good points about challenging the bias especially among pundits. Factual rebuttals even satirical ones distributed in whatever way possible can't hurt. And pump out those "talking points" because the media loves to report on them.Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04876442776701189706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-75818412269217673222011-05-08T18:42:25.409-04:002011-05-08T18:42:25.409-04:00Just so people don't think the endorsements w...Just so people don't think the endorsements were a one off:<br /><br />2008 endorsements:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_endorsements_in_the_Canadian_federal_election,_2008<br /><br />2006 endorsements:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_endorsements_in_the_Canadian_federal_election,_2006Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-29210146095143985042011-05-08T18:29:14.545-04:002011-05-08T18:29:14.545-04:0028 papers endorsed the Conservatives
2 papers end...28 papers endorsed the Conservatives <br />2 papers endorsed the NDP <br />1 paper endorsed the Bloc<br />0 papers endorsed the Liberals <br /><br /><br />Three points: <br /><br />One Liberals also have to "attack the refs". I said this prior to the election -- indeed I have been saying it for years. "The Liberals need to start developing additional talking points aimed not at a broad audience but at political pundits, and political junkies. Above all else the party needs to challenge the legions of conservative columnists least various conservative position become received wisdom. Factual errors need to be pointed out, non sequiturs need to be mocked and detailed arguments provided. Again the party needs to be vicious. Ignatieff talks about wanting to the be the party that bases its decisions on sound reasoning and science. A good way of establishing such a reputation is take a conservative pundit out to the wood shed on occasion. When a conservative columnist retires the Liberals should share Trudeau's lament: "I'm sorry I won't have you to kick around any more." Special attention needs to be given to the following papers: Globe and Mail, Vancouver Sun, Winnipeg Free Press, Ottawa Citizen and the Montreal Gazette. <br /><br />Two, of course for such a strategy to be effective the Liberals actually need take stand on issues. A lot of the success Conservatives have enjoyed stems from the fact that however, stupid their arguments and policies, they are the only ones willing to put forward some. When pundits talk about policy or arguments used to buttress it; they deal with Conservative policies and arguments. The Liberals give them nothing to talk about. The Liberals have abandoned the field altogether; they do not put forward polices; they do not put forward arguments; they do not refute arguments. They might tut tut and promise to "compromise", but this only hurts them. The former makes them appear to be the effeminate wimps the Conservatives claim them to be and the later makes it appear that the various Conservative arguments polices have some validity when in actuality they have none. At best, the Liberals will sometimes take a stand in defense of the status quo. The gun registry is a case in point. However, do not expect them to say much of anything when they do take a stand. They might note that the experts support them, but they will not repeat the expert's arguments least someone take offense to what the experts are saying and want to shoot the messenger. <br /><br />Three, for years the Liberals have believed that they could use the media to faithfully disseminate their message and so talk directly to the Canadian people. They are wrong. Trying to use the media as a vehicle for getting your message out is like trying to pass a message to someone across a large room by having a series of people whisper in the ear of the person next to them. What message is eventually received is seldom the same as the message given.Kobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03407275645274060038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-80633045637282928362011-05-08T17:28:59.054-04:002011-05-08T17:28:59.054-04:00The statement about Right Wing Media bias DOES nee...The statement about Right Wing Media bias DOES need to be made within the context of what do we do about it. So here's my policy proposals.<br /><br />Altering Corporations and Freeing the Fifth Estate<br /><br />http://canadaelects.blogspot.com/2011/05/altering-corporations.htmlJerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-37910276221390473982011-05-08T17:25:58.323-04:002011-05-08T17:25:58.323-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-219213888373911892011-05-08T17:23:32.957-04:002011-05-08T17:23:32.957-04:00We need to re-define the Radical Centre
through ou...We need to re-define the Radical Centre<br />through our own Creative Commons-based social media, <br /><br />We need democracy forums in all 308 ridings for grounded political action discussions and planning and socials.<br /><br />We need our own University Radio news and analysis shows.<br /><br />We need our own cable TV news and analysis shows.<br /><br />Weekly "broadcast" of national discussions, with follow up, internal voting/polling systems to determine common choices and opinions.<br /><br />We need to bring together the network of all Canadian Liberal Democratic associations, clubs, societies, etc from the Council of Canadians to Fair Vote Canada to Democracy Watch to etc etc etc.Jerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-80999248397799402762011-05-08T17:10:35.343-04:002011-05-08T17:10:35.343-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-4595159002076572172011-05-08T15:52:16.472-04:002011-05-08T15:52:16.472-04:00I find it amusing you lack the sophistication to d...I find it amusing you lack the sophistication to distinguish between fantasy and fact.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-165214062085561232011-05-08T15:48:26.515-04:002011-05-08T15:48:26.515-04:00I find amusing when my righty friends accuse the m...I find amusing when my righty friends accuse the media of bias. Same with the lefties, apparently.<br /><br />The media only cares about what will sell ads, i.e., controversy.Möbiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11851148006420274055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-54139894948440243072011-05-08T13:42:18.543-04:002011-05-08T13:42:18.543-04:00Deno:
There is another reason Steve V did not men...Deno:<br /><br />There is another reason Steve V did not mention, it is called "working the refs" to produce favourable coverage as well as to continue the myth within the CPC base that anything in the media which makes the CPC look bad or unfit to govern has to be because of media bias and conspiracy against them not because it might actually have a factual basis or even *gasp* be true. When you discredit all information sources but your own approved ones to your base then you don't have to waste resources trying to convince them to stay with you, which in turn allows you to focus on getting those you need to shave off to gain your majority.<br /><br />In the pre-Harper days I would have been classified as a soft Liberal/Red Tory swing voter. My economics tend to be classic Canadian conservative in basis and my social welfare and justice values liberal to in some areas trending hard left/NDP in places. I am a conglomeration of political views with no one aspect being dominant save one: I do not trust, support, and especially want to see any ideological and/or extremist government, which was why I have always been so hardcore about Harper.<br /><br />Now, unlike most unaligned voters I know what Harper is because I actually do my own research instead of relying on the media to tell me things. The problem with the media regarding Harper is that they swallow almost totally without critical thought what comes out of his mouth when it comes to political rivals, and without a lot of critical thought and more importantly critical examination in their media forums Harper government POLICY. Indeed, the Harper government got less critical policy examination than any prior government in my lifetime and that profoundly terrifies me, because the whole point of a free press/media in a democratic society is to hold those in power under close scrutiny WHOMEVER they happen to be! When that is lost then the voters lose a very critical tool in being able to form informed judgments when they vote!<br /><br />I hate to have to agree with Steve V but the actual evidence is there, the media in Canada is clearly biased towards the Harper <br />CPC overall. Are there individuals within it who are not and try to be heard? Of course, but we are not talking about narrow examples here we are talking about overall broad outlines, and it is clearly there that the blue tinging is indeed most noticeable. Indeed the only consistent media studies on coverage during elections all show that the Conservatives do much better than anyone else, and is the ONLY actual hard evidence that shows ANY media bias.<br /><br />Not to mention the ownership aspects already discussed here which has always been a problem in waiting in this country. It used to be though there was a belief in the need for fairness and balance within those groups, but over the past quarter century or so that began changing. No Deno, there is a real problem within the media these days for bias, and the hard facts actually show that the bias as far as one exists is clearly blue in colour, not red or orange.Scotianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06284856315992405261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-59509133956174635612011-05-08T13:21:04.482-04:002011-05-08T13:21:04.482-04:00Deno
Again, ignoring the coverage facts. On your...Deno<br /><br />Again, ignoring the coverage facts. On your questions, they avoided because its a gotcha environment, leading why take the chance.<br /><br />Kirk<br /><br />Only part of the equation. As for money, with per vote subsidy smaller, then elimination, it will be years before we can compete.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-22918919298202838102011-05-08T13:14:04.078-04:002011-05-08T13:14:04.078-04:00I have a question, if the media is so right wing t...I have a question, if the media is so right wing then why is SH always at war with the PPG? After all, since SH and the Tories pays them like A Elize says is it not a waste of money to pay the media then ignore them, <br /><br />Again I asked, if the media is so rightwing and on board with the Tories like Steve.V says then why are all the Tories MP`s and candidates during this election were under a gage order not to talk to the media.<br /><br />If the MSM was on board with the Tories as you liberals believe then SH is smart enough to use them to get his message out as much as possible. The Fact that the PPG and SH are always at war and that they hate each other is proof that there is no rightwing biases and you guys are looking for a scapegoat to blame for the Liberals worst loss in their history.<br /><br />The more Liberals look outside the party for why Canadians are supporting them with fewer and fewer votes the longer the Liberal Party will stay in the political wilderness.<br /><br />This is one right of centre Canadian that held his nose and voted Tory this election to prevent the NDP from gaining power. Since I will never vote NDP, as long as the Liberal Party is blaming everyone but themselves for their current low standing with Canadian voters people like me will be stuck voting Tory for many elections to come.<br /><br />Get back to being the party that slayed the deficit and cut taxes and generally ran a good competent government and quit this blame game so millions of right of centre Canadians like me will have a choice on who to vote for in future elections.<br /><br />DenoDenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07421501933250460653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-23742361547559585152011-05-08T13:14:00.799-04:002011-05-08T13:14:00.799-04:00Social media will only get you so far.
Harper us...Social media will only get you so far. <br /><br />Harper used paid ads to get his message out. This allowed him to say things that he could never, even in a pro-Conservative media environment, get away with. He can say them unchallenged in ads. Articles tend to a least contain a rebuttal comment from the other side.<br /><br />SunTV exists to allow him to say these things without having to pay for it. Foxnews puts out attack ads stories/narratives without the Republicans paying ABC, NBC etc. to do it. <br /><br />Now people like Sean Cummings like to say it's whining to talk about attack ads or govt funded Con positive advertising but we must ignore his ego. easily wounded, from seeing anyone say anything that contradicts his Con partisan world view. <br /><br />Just as we need to take a clear look at how the Liberal Party has lost 22% of the electorate since the Chretien years. No deluding of ourselves on our faults or on the barriers we face in the media, in fund raising and everywhere else.Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04876442776701189706noreply@blogger.com