tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post5324979675048525717..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Not So "Special" DealSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-34454050016370601562008-07-29T03:14:00.000-04:002008-07-29T03:14:00.000-04:00Colten obviously likes to play the shell game. His...Colten obviously likes to play the shell game. His excuse 'ridings being able to spend their money as they see fit' doesn't jibe with what we know today, that the ridings had no say in how the money was spent, were not allowed to spend it, and that campaign managers and candidates were told to shut up about it. You don't tell people to 'shut up' unless you've got something to hide. What's Colten hiding under his tinfoil?burlivespipehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048415779214466831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-34114264592817078112008-07-28T22:17:00.000-04:002008-07-28T22:17:00.000-04:00colten is beyond boring.blues clair, thanks for th...colten is beyond boring.<BR/><BR/>blues clair, thanks for that.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-56146002124255168272008-07-28T21:39:00.000-04:002008-07-28T21:39:00.000-04:00and of course colten ignores,Furthermore, Election...and of course colten ignores,<BR/><BR/><I>Furthermore, Elections Canada's web site lists 19 candidates - five of them Conservatives - with loans that remained unpaid 18 months after the 2006 election.</I><BR/><BR/><I>It further lists 10 candidates - four of them Conservatives - whose unpaid loans were deemed to count as donations after 18 months. In five of those cases - three involving Conservative candidates - the donations exceed the legal maximum of $5,400 per donor.</I><BR/><BR/>colten your boring.Blues Clairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08053624911945551511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-65393936211197388742008-07-28T21:12:00.000-04:002008-07-28T21:12:00.000-04:00coltenOh, the adscam reference, how original. Lam...colten<BR/><BR/>Oh, the adscam reference, how original. Lame.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-44919737451802463632008-07-28T20:49:00.000-04:002008-07-28T20:49:00.000-04:00Steve V.interesting how the comparison to the "in ...Steve V.<BR/><BR/>interesting how the comparison to the "in and out" - which is just ridings being able to spend how they see fit, and of course at the direction of the head office -<BR/><BR/>with this latest Liberal scandal,<BR/><BR/>allows us once again to note that the CPC is spending their own money,<BR/><BR/>while the Liberals are spending others'.<BR/><BR/>Of course this isn't stolen money as in adscam, but it IS about the Libs freely spending others money, and trying to wiggle out when the time comes to pony up as required by Elections laws.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-15751934240706877482008-07-28T20:43:00.000-04:002008-07-28T20:43:00.000-04:00coltenNobody by-passed anything, if you actually t...colten<BR/><BR/>Nobody by-passed anything, if you actually take a look at election law, this concept is clearly laid out (and former candidates proceeded with this knowledge), not to mention the precedent, which so happens to include droves of Cons.<BR/><BR/>As for the raid, only a blind partisan can't see that the decision would not be taken lightly, that it would only come about if there was real sense of obstruction. I mean, come on people, you think EC wasn't weary of such a high profile raid?? I bet it was carefully weighed for weeks, if not months, and there was resistence, only done as a last resort. BTW, I think Canadians see this for what it was too, the questioning only seems to come from Conservative apologists.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-56634387109552395652008-07-28T20:25:00.000-04:002008-07-28T20:25:00.000-04:00Going after the CPC with search warrants (unpreced...Going after the CPC with search warrants (unprecedented I believe),<BR/><BR/>while allowing the Libs to by-pass the loan payback requirements.<BR/><BR/>Doesn't<BR/><BR/>look<BR/><BR/>good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-72929529869412035162008-07-28T19:09:00.000-04:002008-07-28T19:09:00.000-04:00"They do seem to be applying the law rather select..."They do seem to be applying the law rather selectively. As long as the parties appear to be basically complying with the law, they should be flexible and let it go."<BR/><BR/>How do you figure that? We have spending limits so elections are fair, that is a basic tenet, one we should all applaud, because it becomes a question of message not money. The more we learn about the Con tactics, the fact their own candidates could see the problems, the more solid EC looks for making this call. People can buy the Con spin here, but I'm inclined to believe an impartial body, headed by Harper appointees (and thank christ for that, just imagine the nonsense if these were Liberal appointees).Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-20659707516701262322008-07-28T19:03:00.000-04:002008-07-28T19:03:00.000-04:00The timing of this is unfortunate for Elections Ca...The timing of this is unfortunate for Elections Canada. They do seem to be applying the law rather selectively. As long as the parties appear to be basically complying with the law, they should be flexible and let it go. If there clear abuse, like say reports of bags of unreported cash being used for election expenses, then they should lower the boom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-45053386643280966132008-07-28T18:19:00.000-04:002008-07-28T18:19:00.000-04:00I might have erred by using ASS in reference to hi...I might have erred by using ASS in reference to him specifically, more rightly the publication.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-89505787096627183322008-07-28T18:10:00.000-04:002008-07-28T18:10:00.000-04:00Anon, it's not McGregor specifically, it's Canwest...Anon, it's not McGregor specifically, it's Canwest and their bias re' the headline writer.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-44556947259930743162008-07-28T18:09:00.000-04:002008-07-28T18:09:00.000-04:00anonI'm well aware they broke the story, which mak...anon<BR/><BR/>I'm well aware they broke the story, which makes this title all the more curious.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-86819970569595983042008-07-28T18:06:00.000-04:002008-07-28T18:06:00.000-04:00As anyone who knows anything about newspapers can ...As anyone who knows anything about newspapers can tell you, reporters don't write the headlines. Editors do. <BR/><BR/>Also, MacGregor and CP's Tim Naumetz broke the Tory in-and-out story, so I think you're looking for Con bias in the wrong place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-8926446827287620842008-07-28T17:18:00.000-04:002008-07-28T17:18:00.000-04:00So, I guess the folks at Canwest-Global have decid...So, I guess the folks at Canwest-Global have decided that they need to help out their friends in the Conservative Party.<BR/><BR/>What a surprise.<BR/><BR/>With the exception of the Conservative base no Canadian is really going to believe Elections Canada is biased. Sorry folks, it ain't going to happen.<BR/><BR/>Canadians are smarter than the Conservatives and Canwest-Global give them credit for. Well, at least the majority of Canadians.ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-4075589171554179702008-07-28T16:30:00.000-04:002008-07-28T16:30:00.000-04:00National Newswatch had a special header on the sto...National Newswatch had a special header on the story, first using a link from CTV, which was a generic headline. Now, it's changed to the "SPECIAL DEAL" link.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-2215145752303973512008-07-28T16:26:00.000-04:002008-07-28T16:26:00.000-04:00Geez. It just occured to me that the committee me...Geez. It just occured to me that the committee meets in a couple of weeks again.<BR/><BR/>This should be put to rest before that.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-54441151197112971572008-07-28T16:24:00.000-04:002008-07-28T16:24:00.000-04:00Lol. It's tough when you're mad isn't it?How long...Lol. It's tough when you're mad isn't it?<BR/><BR/>How long do you think before Poilievre finds a mic?Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-88865913363736098362008-07-28T16:07:00.000-04:002008-07-28T16:07:00.000-04:00"(I was polite,;)"I wasn't :)"(I was polite,;)"<BR/><BR/>I wasn't :)Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-35613523663397315962008-07-28T16:01:00.000-04:002008-07-28T16:01:00.000-04:00Yes that too. Not that it'll make a whiff of diff...Yes that too. Not that it'll make a whiff of difference, I wrote the Citizen. (I was polite,;)<BR/><BR/>I hope the Liberals set the record straight quickly and EC for that matter.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-32780751599094814922008-07-28T15:50:00.000-04:002008-07-28T15:50:00.000-04:00It crosses the line, because it suggests that the ...It crosses the line, because it suggests that the Cons are right, EC favors the Liberals, when the reality, INDISPUTABLE, is nothing of the sort.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-52155517275367864782008-07-28T15:48:00.000-04:002008-07-28T15:48:00.000-04:00This crosses the line imo.I know I get on media a ...This crosses the line imo.<BR/><BR/>I know I get on media a lot for spin and bias, but that headline is a lie.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.com