tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post5461566638039965274..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Greens Ahead In Quebec!Steve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-37237376336590280412009-02-12T16:10:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:10:00.000-05:00anonLOL, it ain't just me, dude's numbers are TANK...anon<BR/><BR/>LOL, it ain't just me, dude's numbers are TANKING big time. Keep telling yourself whatever gets you through the day....Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-17803392992632426522009-02-12T15:56:00.000-05:002009-02-12T15:56:00.000-05:00"Also, people are clearly tiring of the Layton act..."Also, people are clearly tiring of the Layton act."<BR/><BR/>We know you are...you can only speak for yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-76739516412471583712009-02-12T13:10:00.000-05:002009-02-12T13:10:00.000-05:00The QC numbers are 100% fiction.As Antonio said so...The QC numbers are 100% fiction.<BR/>As Antonio said somewhere else, ignore this stupidity until a large sample size comes out.<BR/>IF Iggy can somehow draw the francophones away from the beloved Bloc almost a la Harper there is hope. Otherwise the Liberals should be pleased to what they've got.<BR/>Let's focus on BC and Ontario where there's some tangible gains to be made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-49553449065036426592009-02-12T10:19:00.000-05:002009-02-12T10:19:00.000-05:00anonDon't worry, everyone else has the NDP down in...anon<BR/><BR/>Don't worry, everyone else has the NDP down in Ontario, which makes sense when you think about it. Also, people are clearly tiring of the Layton act.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-75045459767571377512009-02-12T00:35:00.000-05:002009-02-12T00:35:00.000-05:00But the NDP is at 20% in Ontario - two points abov...But the NDP is at 20% in Ontario - two points above what they got in the last election. This must be like a stake through the heart of all Liberals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-79021715579109297822009-02-11T12:48:00.000-05:002009-02-11T12:48:00.000-05:00Yer right, Mark. Genest ain't any newer than Lizzi...Yer right, Mark. Genest ain't any newer than Lizzie May. He made a reasonably big splash (for a Green) with TV ads during the campaign. I tend to agree that this "boost" ain't really a boost but a fluke/error/anomaly/outlier. Kinda funny in a ha-ha sorta way, too. <BR/><BR/>The 4% to 3.5% drop? That was probbly on accounta all the Green voters in Dion's riding being denied a GPC candidate. ;-)<BR/><BR/>JBJimBobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603665575714484326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-50338848241601834782009-02-11T11:47:00.000-05:002009-02-11T11:47:00.000-05:00Jim Bobby - Genest isn't new... he's been the depu...Jim Bobby - Genest isn't new... he's been the deputy leader since May was elected in 2006. Any boosts in the polls in Quebec clearly aren't due to him. The drop in Quebec results (4.0% to 3.5%) between elections may be more of a reflection of his impact on the province.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-68809196743547034422009-02-11T10:19:00.000-05:002009-02-11T10:19:00.000-05:00(A rule of thumb: if you see the Green Party in do...<I>(A rule of thumb: if you see the Green Party in double digits in a poll, the poll is probably not reliable).</I><BR/><BR/>In the lead-up to the October 14 election, nearly every poll had the Greens at 10% or better. Since the actual election result was 6.8%, you can argue that all the polls were unreliable and that when all polls give the same unreliable results, then all polls are unreliable. <BR/><BR/>I agree hese latest numbers are goofy and almost certainly a fluke/error/typo. Green support, however, is edging nicely into double-digits. The Greens are growing while the other parties are stagnating or losing support. Your rule of thumb may need to be changed to a rule of green thumb: nurture it and it will grow.<BR/><BR/>JBJimBobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603665575714484326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-45073905064993798752009-02-11T09:44:00.000-05:002009-02-11T09:44:00.000-05:00maybe they only polled in anglophone montrealmaybe they only polled in anglophone montrealA View From The Lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14329632758725485498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-84316289419425454362009-02-11T08:57:00.000-05:002009-02-11T08:57:00.000-05:00The Green Party being shown as 26% in Quebec and 1...The Green Party being shown as 26% in Quebec and 13% nationally instantly tells me that this is a throwaway poll (i.e. the 20th poll out of 20). I'd ignore this one.<BR/><BR/>(A rule of thumb: if you see the Green Party in double digits in a poll, the poll is probably not reliable).YahMonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16666699276534100400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-21295973291835749882009-02-11T08:49:00.000-05:002009-02-11T08:49:00.000-05:00Whooee! Q-beck has been about the worst place for ...Whooee! Q-beck has been about the worst place for GPC support. We got us a new QC frontman and deputy leader in <A HREF="http://www.greenparty.ca/en/news/2008-12-11/candidate-spotlight-claude-william-genest" REL="nofollow">Claude Genest</A>. He's bringin' more Greenies into the fold but I can't believe we're doing that great like SC sez.<BR/><BR/>Considering the possible hit to SC's cred, I suspect that they may have some way to back up those numbers. (Or, perhaps, to disavow them?) Strange and wonderful? <BR/><BR/>JBJimBobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603665575714484326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-56314111036866281052009-02-11T08:15:00.000-05:002009-02-11T08:15:00.000-05:00janfromthebruce - by your profile you are a "publi...janfromthebruce - by your profile you are a "public" employee who gets paid by "taxpayers" - so get back to work. You spend a lot of time ranting about Liberals (LOL and she wanted a coalition?).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-51210157719721773082009-02-11T08:03:00.000-05:002009-02-11T08:03:00.000-05:00"the NDP is also picking up"LOL."the NDP is also picking up"<BR/><BR/>LOL.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-9179142602233575102009-02-11T05:11:00.000-05:002009-02-11T05:11:00.000-05:00Probably a typo.Probably a typo.penlanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07830912393649649485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-30042128511642211622009-02-11T03:29:00.000-05:002009-02-11T03:29:00.000-05:00Ah JanfromNarnia, what would we ever do without yo...Ah JanfromNarnia, what would we ever do without your comforting and reliable sunglasses-in-the-dark anti-liberal rant?burlivespipehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048415779214466831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-21380584317641137182009-02-11T00:05:00.000-05:002009-02-11T00:05:00.000-05:00Yap, and considering that the NDP is also picking ...Yap, and considering that the NDP is also picking up, it's good that right-wing Iggy cut ties, as we were getting tainted.<BR/>the liberal party can change it's name to the conservative liberal party - honesty in advertising and part of the new transparency.susansmithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02573558646874765432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-87393766111171592052009-02-11T00:02:00.000-05:002009-02-11T00:02:00.000-05:00My goodness if this poll ends up in the Globe and ...My goodness if this poll ends up in the Globe and Mail tomorrow with those regionals displayed and that line you quoted above without any disclaimers I would say Strategic Counsel's (and the Globe and Mail's who commissioned the poll) credibility is badly damaged here.<BR/><BR/>You'd think someone would have thrown up a red flag before this went to press. I guess it was too much to expect a pollster to admit they might have made a mistake or done something wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-41103230604882462762009-02-10T23:49:00.000-05:002009-02-10T23:49:00.000-05:00I don't see how you let that number out the door. ...I don't see how you let that number out the door. Surely, somebody at SC would say, "umm, maybe we better try that again".<BR/><BR/>What I do think we're seeing, in a larger sense with these polls, now that the coalition question has passed, a barrier to the Liberals is removed.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-65420291040099840582009-02-10T23:44:00.000-05:002009-02-10T23:44:00.000-05:00Okay, I am now calling for something to make this ...Okay, I am now calling for something to make this fictitious poll a reality.<BR/><BR/>Stephane Dion and Justin Trudeau to defect to the Greens along with Eugene Forsey Liberal and other Anon commenters.<BR/><BR/>The Greens in Quebec need a federalist option. From Papineau to Westmount to Outremont etc etcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-91826320012155198872009-02-10T23:31:00.000-05:002009-02-10T23:31:00.000-05:00Strangely, nobody at Strategic Counsel seems to no...Strangely, nobody at Strategic Counsel seems to notice the <A HREF="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090210/Grits_Poll_090210/20090210?hub=TopStories" REL="nofollow">PROBLEM</A>:<BR/><BR/>Quebec voters, meanwhile, appear to be abandoning the Bloc since the last election while the Greens have seen a huge surge in the province (difference in brackets):<BR/><BR/>Bloc Quebecois: 22 per cent (-16) <BR/>Liberals: 24 per cent (0) <BR/>Conservatives: 17 per cent (-5) <BR/>NDP: 12 per cent (0) <BR/>Green Party: 26 per cent (22 per cent)Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.com