tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post588132980953432148..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Liberal Leadership Race: Cutlery EditionSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-40907375362406441402013-02-19T23:23:09.890-05:002013-02-19T23:23:09.890-05:00I was watching that debate in Newsworld, and I fou...I was watching that debate in Newsworld, and I found myself first pleased by MHF and then disgusted, amazingly enough by her using the same underlying concept in two different ways. The impressed was when she made the point that Canada wasn't a class conscious society until recently and that we need to go back to the way we used to be, that comment got a rare applause from me sitting at home. To then her her discredit that point shortly afterwards by using class as a basis to attack JT, and in such a cumbersome manner to boot, well that really offended me, got a rather sharp retort back to the TV, and started a conversation between me and my wife about just how bad and stupid a move that was on multiple levels.<br /><br />That anyone would think this was a smart move shows they have no business going anywhere near the leader's position. Not only because it is inherently offensive but because it also was clearly the wrong way to try to compete with someone with the history both familial and personal of JT. To try and paint someone as being out of touch because they were born with a silver spoon in their mouths you need to have someone that has not shown a history of service , of not mixing with those from other social/economic classes within the society, and that is something JT clearly does not fit the mold for, he is so far from being a Mitt Romney that way that it should have been obvious just how idiotic this would be for an attack approach. Worse, it comes off as mean spirited by the attacker, leaves you wide open for the obvious counter punch which JT hit back with, shows you as a small minded petty person for going there, and is a pattern of behaviour that many Canadians hate seeing in politics and politicians placing MHF in the negative caricature of the ugly politician while being unable to put JT in the caricature of the spoiled rich person unable to relate seeking power for their own reasons.<br /><br />I was gratified to see the immediate and strongly negative reaction from the audience when she made this attack, and she is clearly feeling the heat from it going by her subsequent actions. I think it speaks well of the Liberal party members there that this triggered such an immediate negative reaction, not so much I sense from the target but because of the nature of the attack itself. That gives me some hope for the future of the return of some civility in Canadian politics again despite all the Harper machine has done to destroy such. This is not something I have had much faith in seeing anymore, the toxicity Harper brought to our politics being as horrific as it has been.Scotianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06284856315992405261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-72680744299072858632013-02-17T13:44:16.501-05:002013-02-17T13:44:16.501-05:00Ask any 'middle class' Canadian, whatever ...Ask any 'middle class' Canadian, whatever that term means, how they think politicians matter in the whole scheme of things. It's kneecap attacks like MHF turned to in her desperation Saturday that leaves Canadians cold... Never mind the fact that, besides his worldly and fortunate son upbringing, Trudeau inherited the whopping sum equivalent to a nice bungalow in a nicer part of east Vancouver. Trudeau is proving ably and savvy when it comes to handling the next stage of leadership. MHF is demonstrating that she is up to the task of spending another near-decade paying off a bad decision.rockfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835472375196889875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-73717782280653445712013-02-17T11:25:29.540-05:002013-02-17T11:25:29.540-05:00The conspiracy nut in me wonders if Hall Findlay j...The conspiracy nut in me wonders if Hall Findlay jobbed herself out to Trudeau, because he did have a good comeback to the question. Otherwise, as you outline, this doesn't make a lot of sense. sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.com