tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post7158626220659073243..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: NDP Leadership Race Goes "Liberal"Steve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-81610057094112668382012-03-17T11:27:04.952-04:002012-03-17T11:27:04.952-04:00Agreed, it's a bad move. He's poisoned the...Agreed, it's a bad move. He's poisoned the well for anyone who wins this. <br /><br />I keep on wondering if this is an example of placing principles ("I think Mulcair will make a bad leader") over power ("screwing the NDP by okaying a civil war") or a mad grab for power/influence (because Mulcair's the front leader, and I suspect he doesn't give a damn about Broadbent).sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-13210298864599249712012-03-16T16:50:38.224-04:002012-03-16T16:50:38.224-04:00http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/articl...http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1147616--hebert-broadbent-has-burdened-the-next-ndp-leaderSteve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-88747599752673695172012-03-16T14:54:54.350-04:002012-03-16T14:54:54.350-04:00Yes, it was amazingly short-sighted and will illus...Yes, it was amazingly short-sighted and will illustrate to Mulcaire's supporters the new broom they are voting for.Cathie from Canadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11418899090537597360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-6423705589601268512012-03-16T13:57:54.934-04:002012-03-16T13:57:54.934-04:00This is probably the first time Broadbent has said...This is probably the first time Broadbent has said something and the NDP rank and file has not taken it as gospel. <br /><br />This will be an interesting convention. Mulcair is likely to win, but I suspect that this isn't going to be one of those typical NDP races, where the party will come together and say they're one big happy family. They tend to avoid divisive discussions -- see the NDP pulling the <a href="http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1011414--ndp-will-remain-socialists-for-now" rel="nofollow">socialist vote from last year's convention</a> -- for the "happy united" front. Whomever wins, there are going to be some bruises. (I can't see this being fatal. A little conflict's probably healthier than burying it.) <br /><br />It'll also be interesting to see how Mulcair does as leader. He ticks a number of the right boxes, but he also has an inability to backdown when he's wrong. See the situation with <a href="http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/03/16/thomas-mulcair-is-mr-angry/" rel="nofollow">Yves Duhaime.</a> Happened recently with the discussion on the photos of <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inside-politics-blog/2011/05/mulcair-transcript.html" rel="nofollow">Bin Laden.</a> (Mulcair said later, he was refering to <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/05/05/mulcair-explains-comments.html" rel="nofollow">pictures showing Bin Laden being shot in self-defence</a>, but take a moment to read the transcript -- he also doesn't appear to believe that pictures exist of the corpse.) <br /><br />Once Mulcair wins, I will await the attacks from Pat Martin and Peter Stoffer for <a href="http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/ndp-thomas-mulcair-vows-keep-french-citizenship-162541115.html" rel="nofollow">Mulcair's dual citizenship</a>. ;P (Yeah, I know, that's not going to happen.)sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-77945975111222187342012-03-16T13:29:34.898-04:002012-03-16T13:29:34.898-04:00But you know really, this hearkens me back to some...But you know really, this hearkens me back to something I said in the earlier thread. <br /><br />Ed (and most pols I suspect)is not able to comprehend that there is a distinction to be made between his personal preferences and the needs of the party or the country. <br /><br />Power, even a little if held for long enough, corrupts the ability to think clearly too.Carmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12516990599047585574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-69210128215458049282012-03-16T13:21:47.369-04:002012-03-16T13:21:47.369-04:00That's the old NDP way. Win by losing.
Layto...That's the old NDP way. Win by losing. <br /><br />Layton switched it up a bit. Win by throwing long cherished policy goals under the bus. <br /><br />Now that Layton's gone they can go back to the old ways.<br /><br />Interesting seeing Stephen Lewis express that he's kept quiet because it's time for the old guard to relinquish the reins. <br /><br />There's probably no one in the party with either the courage or the cred to get slow Eddie to shut up either.Carmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12516990599047585574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-15128583490025137582012-03-16T13:15:06.605-04:002012-03-16T13:15:06.605-04:00If Broadbent was serious about wanting his party t...If Broadbent was serious about wanting his party to become the government in 2015, he should be supporting who he thinks is the best candidate for Canada, not who's best for the NDP.<br /><br />That may or may not be Mulcair, (personally I think Dewar or Cullen are better answers to that) but it's certainly not someone who will cling to the traditional NDP+union dogma.Tof KWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15756310841374198056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-3596755002887179082012-03-16T12:23:09.620-04:002012-03-16T12:23:09.620-04:00It's the multiple times aspect that really stu...It's the multiple times aspect that really stuns me, because these weren't off the cuff, but a calculated move.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-29567279305961274922012-03-16T12:04:57.715-04:002012-03-16T12:04:57.715-04:00Count me in the disbelief crowd as well. I still h...Count me in the disbelief crowd as well. I still have trouble thinking Broadbent of all people would openly say such a thing, multiple times even. Talk about shooting party unity in the foot ...actually he's fired on both feet.Tof KWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15756310841374198056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-68462593252365074282012-03-16T11:46:38.535-04:002012-03-16T11:46:38.535-04:00I don't like Mulcair, but Broadbent should not...I don't like Mulcair, but Broadbent should not have tainted the leadership race like this. I don't know how anybody else feels, but he came across to me like some old loon (albeit a well spoken old loon) who has lost a marble or two. <br />Go back to bed, Ed.Omarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12058734544373976550noreply@blogger.com