tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post7654474374020804992..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Beyond LameSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-13367963896434749162007-05-30T13:48:00.000-04:002007-05-30T13:48:00.000-04:00My overwhelming reaction to this is that I don't g...My overwhelming reaction to this is that I don't get the sense that whoever wrote it is a sparkling wit.¢rÄbG®äŠŠhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16307684311454262849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-44502968571798866602007-05-30T13:28:00.000-04:002007-05-30T13:28:00.000-04:00Wow. So Canadian politics has come to this? I can ...Wow. So Canadian politics has come to this? I can stand being mean, but unfunny? <BR/><BR/>Who writes this stuff? 12 year olds?Peter Dodsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15907889274467230962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-68883518374808417892007-05-30T12:17:00.000-04:002007-05-30T12:17:00.000-04:00I completely agree with you Ed, that Kyoto blog...I completely agree with you Ed, that Kyoto blog is the lowest point of the site.... I really don't know what they were thinking when they did that.Kevrichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01963239658771350221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-88229158654062108262007-05-30T08:39:00.000-04:002007-05-30T08:39:00.000-04:00*sigh*Kyoto posted a new entry:Stéphane was very u...*sigh*<BR/><BR/>Kyoto posted a new entry:<BR/><BR/><I>Stéphane was very upset when he came home from the Hill today.<BR/><BR/>It’s those new Tory ads about the Liberal Senate blowing him off on term limits. He was whining like a homeless mutt. "This is unfair!"; "You don’t know what you speak about"; "Harper is a bully."<BR/><BR/>What a complainer!<BR/><BR/>It was so loud I thought I was in a poodle kennel. Good thing Harper didn’t point out Stéphane’s record on greenhouse gas emissions. That would have had him howling for mercy."</I><BR/><BR/>Up next -- Harper calls all Liberals poopy-pants.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13995719305049783735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-41489850383901748152007-05-30T03:50:00.000-04:002007-05-30T03:50:00.000-04:00Update on the CPC mailbot - it will still submit a...Update on the CPC mailbot - it will still submit a comment even if you enter as little as one random letter in every box except the Province field. It does no checking for numeric data or email-address format.<BR/><BR/>Hey, you could even write a little poem. All that empty space just begging to be used...<BR/><BR/>***First Rule of Online Forms: If you want good data, you've got to work for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-7015117804723554462007-05-30T03:18:00.000-04:002007-05-30T03:18:00.000-04:00Hey, knb, you can still write the CPC like you wan...Hey, knb, you can still write the CPC like you wanted. I tried it, and though they ask for all that info, they don't validate any of it. Put down whatever you want, the mailbot swallows it.<BR/><BR/>Remember, it's just a cheap online form, which means it's really just a text-field packager, and it has no smarts; it just takes whatever string is in whatever field and bundles it up with the message. It has no built-in programming to validate addresses, phone numbers (you could probably just type in 9999999999 and get away with it, in fact it might not even check to see if the phone number is numeric), cities, email addresses (george_olduvai@hotmail.com ought to work), or postal codes (X9X 9X9 should work, or give them the good old H0H 0H0).<BR/><BR/>Have fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-36300348443073982152007-05-30T00:51:00.000-04:002007-05-30T00:51:00.000-04:00The only way I can deal with the frustration I fee...The only way I can deal with the frustration I feel that Canada has come to this - as you all so well describe (good rant Steve) - apart from blogging and knowing there are many out there who feel and think the same - is to take every opportunity to talk to people about the next election and how important it is and to tell people who don't watch the news and don't realize what's going on how threatened our way of life is.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12925229206558848754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-90265472929334909472007-05-29T23:19:00.000-04:002007-05-29T23:19:00.000-04:00knb said... "One other point...look at the spellin...knb said... <BR/>"<I>One other point...look at the spelling on that site. It's american, not canadian. Democratise, is democratize. Trivial perhaps, but telling.</I>"<BR/><BR/>GOOD EYE - more telling than trivial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-58987749803749015612007-05-29T23:07:00.000-04:002007-05-29T23:07:00.000-04:00One other point...look at the spelling on that sit...One other point...look at the spelling on that site. It's american, not canadian. Democratise, is democratize. Trivial perhaps, but telling.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-67080539931356142182007-05-29T22:55:00.000-04:002007-05-29T22:55:00.000-04:00Oh, listening to Baird defending Harris almost mad...Oh, listening to Baird defending Harris almost made me throw up. <BR/><BR/>I just don't know how you can sleep at night and wake up, see yourself in the mirror and lie. Worse yet, as you are shaving, figure out more lies. <BR/><BR/>I do not get it.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-47578634099109255682007-05-29T22:32:00.001-04:002007-05-29T22:32:00.001-04:00"Steve, they have run themselves inside so many ci..."Steve, they have run themselves inside so many circles, it's tough to keep up."<BR/><BR/>A bit off topic, but an interesting excerpt from a G and M piece:<BR/><BR/>"Sparks also flew earlier in the day at the Commons environment committee, where Mr. Baird accused Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty of lying about the speed with which the Ontario government could close down coal-fired generating stations.<BR/><BR/>"Here's a perfect example of a politician wanting to get elected who is prepared to promise the world and lie to voters," said Mr. Baird.<BR/><BR/>Officials in the Ontario government lashed back saying that reliance on coal increased by 127 per cent under the Progressive Conservative regime of Mike Harris, for whom Mr. Baird once acted as energy minister. Emissions of carbon dioxide also rose by 120 per cent.<BR/><BR/><B>"It's easy to call someone names," said one Ontario official. "With their [the federal Conservatives] record, it's their only option."</B>"Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-55877563681584631652007-05-29T22:23:00.000-04:002007-05-29T22:23:00.000-04:00Steve, they have run themselves inside so many cir...Steve, they have run themselves inside so many circles, it's tough to keep up.<BR/><BR/>This is what get's to me. The inmates are running the show and we deserve better.<BR/><BR/>Maybe Canada is sleeping a bit...we can't afford to, but maybe we are just weary. I think your point is well taken...though timing is everything.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-71066866548675750172007-05-29T22:12:00.000-04:002007-05-29T22:12:00.000-04:00I just went to the con party website, to express h...I just went to the con party website, to express how disgusted I am.<BR/><BR/>It turns out, you can't just write them, you need to give your first and last name, address, and telephone number. Contrast that with the Lib site.<BR/><BR/>I wanted to write and say how embarassed I was as a Canadian. Damned if I want them tracking me though. My phone is unlisted, so I don't give it out, but I cannot write them because of that? Yes, this is the party that embraces all of us. What a joke.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-77634268423677566372007-05-29T22:07:00.000-04:002007-05-29T22:07:00.000-04:00I actually think Liberals should draw attention to...I actually think Liberals should draw attention to these ads and the website. The best way to contrast, is to highlight how somebody else operates, while articulating a different standard. Dion's biggest assets are his character and honesty. What he lacks in polish and political instinct, can be countered with integrity. I think it important moving forward that Dion resist rolling in the mud with the children, and present Canada a mature approach, based on a discussion of ideas, rather than negative neo-con tactics.<BR/><BR/>Knb, on the Martin score. The Tory apologists are complaining about Liberals whining about these ads, and point to the Liberal campaign to show apparent hypocrisy. I find it quite amusing that the best defense seems to justify, using the dirty Liberals for context. That begs the question, whatever happened to "doing things differently"?Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-39343960412380362912007-05-29T22:00:00.000-04:002007-05-29T22:00:00.000-04:00Sassy, you express my sentiment, as do you all.To ...Sassy, you express my sentiment, as do you all.<BR/><BR/>To be honest, when I first saw all of this today, I thought, juvenile schlock, here we go again. Then I got angry, then I became sad. I grabbed my bike and rode trying to figure out where we are in this country.<BR/><BR/>Sound dramatic or maybe melodramatic? It's not, it's just honest.<BR/><BR/>It seems to me that we've gone from being an intelligent nation, to one filled with stupiity, over night.<BR/><BR/>Now, in reality, I think most of us in this country get it. What infuriates me though, is the fact that this flipping government is dictating the message. We have people in power who are happy to dumb down every discussion. That is scary!<BR/><BR/>Steve, you know the more I think about it, the more I agree with the Martin ad's. They were truth and now it's manifesting. We should not have backed off. Don't conflate the message, keep it honest, but do not back down when presenting who these guy's are.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-64090999412051841252007-05-29T20:57:00.000-04:002007-05-29T20:57:00.000-04:00Steve V. “cheesy, plain goofy, embarrassing, l...Steve V. “<I>cheesy, plain goofy, embarrassing, low brow, gradeschool junk, humorless tripe, It's a dud</I><BR/><BR/>Gayle said... <BR/>“<I>To say this website is juvenile is an insult to juveniles.</I>” <BR/><BR/>burlivespipe said... <BR/>“<I>… That they are beyond desperate is palpable.</I>”<BR/><BR/>From <A HREF="http://wheredthatbuggo.blogspot.com/”" REL="nofollow"> where’d that bug go?</A> <BR/>“<I>… ridiculous website</I>”<BR/><BR/>The Toronto Star -“<I>The ad campaign, coupled with a website -- notaleader.ca -- is seen by observers as a <B>desperate attempt by the Conservative Party, which is flagging in the opinion polls</B>, ….. </I>”<BR/><BR/>My Canadian pride - diminished. This is a <B>sad and sorry day in Canadian federal politics</B>. Do those <B>fools</B> know no boundaries in their attempts to take over the ship?<BR/><BR/>Someone should contact a Conservative party insider (or even someone who thinks he is ;)) to inform them that this <B>insult to all thinking Canadians</B> website has been put up under the CPC name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-19526539959565350982007-05-29T20:07:00.000-04:002007-05-29T20:07:00.000-04:00gayleI admit some bias, but I also find it hard to...gayle<BR/><BR/>I admit some bias, but I also find it hard to believe anyone finds that Kyoto blog funny, beyond the spoon fed partisans. It's a dud.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-50323787375705907642007-05-29T20:03:00.000-04:002007-05-29T20:03:00.000-04:00To say this website is juvenile is an insult to ju...To say this website is juvenile is an insult to juveniles.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-46513033930836906572007-05-29T19:53:00.000-04:002007-05-29T19:53:00.000-04:00"But we are bias, so how this plays, if it does, i..."But we are bias, so how this plays, if it does, in the media and among the pundits will be a curiosity I'll be following."<BR/><BR/>I read two separate news items, that both used the word "desperate" in description. The pundits I heard were more interested in the "techincal briefing" the Tories called, with no cameras, as though they were being manipulated. For the most part, given the frequency, there seems to be a general yawn, with a touch of cynicism.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-13702650977301456702007-05-29T19:47:00.000-04:002007-05-29T19:47:00.000-04:00Like you, I abhor the idea of giving this kind of ...Like you, I abhor the idea of giving this kind of vapid mean-spirited crapulence any thought or hits. That they are trying to appear 'hip' and 'witty' is just another zone that they've sunk to. But we are bias, so how this plays, if it does, in the media and among the pundits will be a curiosity I'll be following.<BR/>How to react? It's obvious that the CONs, so waist-deep in oil money (I think someone should throw oilsands in their face and remind them that it was a Liberal gov't that helped make it possible -- like saying that the 'new' CON gov't would have put the brakes to R&D -- if they are just going to 'harp' on what the Liberals didn't do in 13 years, we should start talking up WHAT they DID do...) are aiming at making this kind of message a white noise, something you don't need to be told about but just inherently feel come next election...<BR/>I won't go to the website and won't spend a lot of time dissecting it. All I want to ask of people is 'What does this say about the CONs leader when all you can do is talk about the opposition?'<BR/>That they know nothing about fairplay is understandable. That they are beyond desperate is palpable. That this kind of ploy could work is frightening.burlivespipehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048415779214466831noreply@blogger.com