tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post8663771805880694688..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: "We need to get back to power as soon as possible."Steve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-43006604596082994712007-04-03T23:04:00.000-04:002007-04-03T23:04:00.000-04:00Who is the 'real' Jason Kenney?http://www.bigboy.c...Who is the 'real' Jason Kenney?<BR/><BR/>http://www.bigboy.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-56119132979473339482007-04-03T22:55:00.000-04:002007-04-03T22:55:00.000-04:00knbI'm waiting to see the exact wording of the Wil...knb<BR/><BR/>I'm waiting to see the exact wording of the Williams ads. I suspect they will have an election ad aspect, which by ALL RIGHTS should get the media's attention.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1256556618736779642007-04-03T22:42:00.000-04:002007-04-03T22:42:00.000-04:00Well, that is garbage and should be a headline, bu...Well, that is garbage and should be a headline, but it won't be will it?<BR/><BR/>Hmmm, maybe now is the time to write to the media and ask why aren't you reporting this, "We the taxpayer" stuff? They report it for the small stuff.<BR/><BR/>Damn, the country needs to know that we are paying for Stephen Harper's petulance.<BR/><BR/>Come on blue lib/red tory, surely you would agree with that?Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-70113707831296831662007-04-03T21:14:00.000-04:002007-04-03T21:14:00.000-04:00Yes we are!Yes we are!Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-71376691820847840542007-04-03T20:03:00.000-04:002007-04-03T20:03:00.000-04:00Oh, damn, I missed that! I must stop flipping sta...Oh, damn, I missed that! I must stop flipping stations, (hah, you thought only men did that, :).<BR/><BR/>Indeed, they are unbelievable, but I think we'd better start believing them.<BR/><BR/>Too bad Newman couldn't name his source, but I'm telling you, as prepared as Harper thinks he is, he still doesn't have the gang under control and there will be trouble or missteps and damage control for sure.<BR/><BR/>For the record, what I did see of Newman, he exposed the fright-factory in a pretty non-partisan way I thought. Hopefully, non-lazy media will read between the lines and run with something.<BR/><BR/>BTW are we paying for this attack against Williams? I only caught a bit of that.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-34877615479496717292007-04-03T18:22:00.000-04:002007-04-03T18:22:00.000-04:00knbDid you see Newman today when he said, pharapha...knb<BR/><BR/>Did you see Newman today when he said, pharaphasing:<BR/><BR/>"I talked to a prominent Conservative in Alberta, who said that the government was just doing what it had to get a majority, but would then return to the principles it initially ran on."<BR/><BR/>That's the excuse now, freely admitted. Yes, we are political parasites for the sake of self interest, we have no soul, but re-elect us so you can see the real thing. These people are UNBELIEVABLE.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-39641547003769854882007-04-03T18:14:00.000-04:002007-04-03T18:14:00.000-04:00daniel, there is not one thing in your comment tha...daniel, there is not one thing in your comment that leads me to believe your claim, red tory/blue lib.<BR/><BR/>Nice try though.<BR/><BR/>Did you know that spending is up 14% under Harper? Worse yet, it's scattered, vote getting, spending, transparant as Saran Wrap. Have Liberals ever done this, yes of course, but Steve was going to be different, do everything differently. It seems to me that we as a country were far more fiscally sound under the Lib's.<BR/><BR/>I'm not interested in playing games. If you like Harper, fair enough, just don't hide behind some fabricated persona.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-46580995300940371292007-04-03T17:30:00.000-04:002007-04-03T17:30:00.000-04:00Just to pile on ottlib's comments, daniel you clai...Just to pile on ottlib's comments, daniel you claims of objectivity fall on deaf ears. You drink the koolaid, and you inability to acknowledge the Tory manipulations, dodging and weaving with past Liberal transgressions (which I criticized btw), proves you are nothing more than a Harper apologist. SDA is more your speed, leave us to our delusions.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-23179498439695566122007-04-03T17:09:00.000-04:002007-04-03T17:09:00.000-04:00daniel said:"I'd actually place myself in the Blue...daniel said:<BR/><BR/>"I'd actually place myself in the Blue Liberal-Red Tory mould of the political spectrum..."<BR/><BR/>Then daniel I would expect you to be less supportive of the Conservatives just because of the budget.<BR/><BR/>As a fiscal conservative I liked how the Liberals eliminated the deficit and began paying down the debt. As a fiscal conservative I see the most recent budget as a threat to that because the economic assumptions of the document are way out of whack. <BR/><BR/>If the the economy grows just half a percentage point less this year than this budget forecasts (probable to likely) we are looking at another deficit by this time next year. A deficit I would remind you that would be completely preventable if this government cared more about governing than winning a majority government.<BR/><BR/>Daniel, as a Blue Liberal/Red Tory you should be howling with outrage at this budget and this government. The fact that you are not limits the credibility of your assertions of your political leanings. The fact that you actually seem to support this government despite the budget would seems to further indicate that you are just a CPC partisan, despite your protestations to the contrary. However the real kicker that puts paid to your assertion is your statements that you cannot blame the Conservatives for lying to you because the Liberals did it too. Classic, Harper hypocracy and it places you directly in his camp.<BR/><BR/>So lose the claim that you are a Blue Liberal or Red Tory. It is not true. If you truly believe it then you are delusional. If it is just a line then you are being misleading, which proves Steve's point.ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-90214645227958339832007-04-03T16:50:00.000-04:002007-04-03T16:50:00.000-04:00daniel, please tell us what the Liberals out and o...<I>daniel, please tell us what the Liberals out and out lied about to get elected.</I><BR/><BR/>Gee, either you guys are all REALLY new to politics, or just have highly selective - dare I say "rose-tinted" - memories.<BR/><BR/>knb, if you can find a copy of the 1993 Red Book, or have a few videos of the 2004/2006 Liberal attack ads, I suggest you find them and re-formulate your answer accordingly.<BR/><BR/>I love how all of you were so quick to assume that I was some CPC-partisan, come to spoil the otherwise monolithic opinion around here. I'd actually place myself in the Blue Liberal-Red Tory mould of the political spectrum, and if you guys want to win people like me into the the fold, the subject matter in this thread isn't gonna cut it.<BR/><BR/>Really, in terms of advertising, the Tories haven't been dirtier than the Liberals since 1993, and if the past two elections' Liberal ads weren't campaigns of fear, I don't know what is. <BR/><BR/>Honestly, people, any electable party has a battle HQ like the CPC's tucked away somewhere; you all appear equally as fooled as those "Conservative zealots" you all love to talk about.danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16941331790158166428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-88625928547933431092007-04-03T12:01:00.000-04:002007-04-03T12:01:00.000-04:00Just a quick comment on Kennedy. These shows that...Just a quick comment on Kennedy. These shows that Kennedy appears on demand a forceful approach to be effective. <BR/><BR/>I remember people criticizing Kennedy during the leadership race for sitting back too much in the debates, showing too much "decorum". The fact of the matter, within these television forums, you have to blunt and aggressive or you lose, it's the nature of that arena. If Kennedy is cutting people off and taking an offensive tone, I say good, he understands the medium.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-76385669126440290242007-04-03T11:52:00.000-04:002007-04-03T11:52:00.000-04:00Tomm, my eyes are wide open and I disagree with yo...Tomm, my eyes are wide open and I disagree with you. I don't see Kennedy or anyone else stooping to the level I've seen from some of the unsavories in the con camp.<BR/><BR/>I do not expect the Liberals to just sit back and allow the lying to go unchallenged. The only moderator I've ever seen chime in to correct a point, (to all parties btw), is Don Newman. The rest are happy to let propoganda and misinformation to get on the air. I do not see defending the truth as "stooping" and veering off the high road. Scott Reid, I fully agree he goes way over the top and I personally would take him out of the limelight. Who'd you pit against Tim Power's is beyond me though, they are quite equally matched. <BR/><BR/>As for the rest of your comment, what left-wing nut has the LPC attached themselves to? How are they "soft on terror"? Since when do they not support some US foreign policy?<BR/><BR/>All of those assertions are fabrications. This country didn't just become active on the terrorism front when the Con's came in. We were working well with the US vis a vis border security, we supported the Afghanistan mission, etc. and I have heard more than one US official comment on how well they worked with McLelland etal.<BR/><BR/>Before the con's came to power, were Canadians running around in fear claiming that the Government wasn't protecting them? No of course not.<BR/><BR/>All of this, including the Chavez comment, have only become part of the conversation since Harper instructed his troops to put it out there. It's all lies and that needs to be pointed out, not ignored.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-13300916417161955212007-04-03T11:11:00.000-04:002007-04-03T11:11:00.000-04:00Automatic I guess.Automatic I guess.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-84821939859000367312007-04-03T10:59:00.000-04:002007-04-03T10:59:00.000-04:00RTI don't know Red :)RT<BR/><BR/>I don't know Red :)Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-61875622951880005212007-04-03T10:40:00.000-04:002007-04-03T10:40:00.000-04:00Steve -- So how do you do that? I'm sure it's some...Steve -- So how do you do that? I'm sure it's some simple little trick, but I can't seem to get it.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-39379800091272080192007-04-03T09:00:00.000-04:002007-04-03T09:00:00.000-04:00Steve -- Good pic, btw. I have one up too on this....Steve -- Good pic, btw. I have one up too on this. ;) <BR/><BR/>Can you tell me how that link thingee at the bottom of the post works. I can't seem to figure it out.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-87390855172143040182007-04-03T08:22:00.000-04:002007-04-03T08:22:00.000-04:00When a hockey team or football team come out at th...When a hockey team or football team come out at the beginning of a season proclaiming they're going to win - that's OK.<BR/><BR/>But Dion coming out pumped up after the leadership race talking about winning isn't? It's simply getting your troops upbeat and nothing else and Harper is using this.<BR/><BR/>Dion never said he wanted an election. He was pumpled up and pumping up the Liberals<BR/><BR/>Now, how much of the taxpayers' money went into Harper's silly war room - he gets $1.79 per voter from taxpayers.<BR/><BR/>Jason Kenney - is he gay? I'm not trying to spread something here, but really he comes off like a gossipy blue haired lady. Watch his hands. I was just curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-47842514593731686292007-04-03T07:49:00.000-04:002007-04-03T07:49:00.000-04:00Let's not forget Harper's the one with the Joseph ...Let's not forget Harper's the one with the Joseph Stalin fascination, well at least according to close aides.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-64058777885467186452007-04-03T05:59:00.000-04:002007-04-03T05:59:00.000-04:00Tomm -- I take it that Chavez comparison was meant...Tomm -- I take it that Chavez comparison was meant to be a bit of wild hyperbole, but your assertion (and you’re by no means alone in this) that the Liberals are somehow cavorting with the “loony left” is pretty laughable. There never seems to be anything to back this up other than accusations that Dion once had a youthful dalliance with Marxism and I’m really at a loss to understand the basis for this charge unless one buys into the nonsense that the Liberals are “soft on terrorism” and “soft on crime” and so on.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-12760598010240262482007-04-03T02:56:00.000-04:002007-04-03T02:56:00.000-04:00There's no end to the vile and mean-spiritedness f...There's no end to the vile and mean-spiritedness from this new Tory regime, but I do feel it reveals a nice tasty achilles, if we just put our teeth to it.<BR/>Forget talking 'bully', but instead stand and deliver the straight goods:<BR/>Harpor promised accountability -- and put his bagman in the senate in charge of public works.<BR/>Harpor promised to protect income trusts and provincial rights to its resources -- then slapped new taxes and equalization formulas that could cripple investment.<BR/>Harpor promised that the courts would hold him accountable -- then proceeded to stack the selection process with his friends and chums.<BR/>Harpor has made a lot of promises over the years -- Iraq, slashing social safety net, two-tier medicine, firewalls between provinces -- it's not only the promises that Harpor has broken, but the ones he may keep that should concern Canadians.<BR/><BR/><BR/>www.canadianrosebud.blogspot.comrockfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835472375196889875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-59533948486961049702007-04-03T00:19:00.000-04:002007-04-03T00:19:00.000-04:00Steve,I know that you think that the LPC is in the...Steve,<BR/><BR/>I know that you think that the LPC is in the ring with a heavyweight and needs to act like a heavyweight, but remember Ali's style. <BR/><BR/>The LPC has pretty much armored itself against Adscam, therefore it doesn't need to defend anything anymore. It doesn't need to defend voting against the budget. It just needs to be confident in itself and quit attacking. Start doing the plank per day like Harper did. He ignored Martin the entire time. And it worked.<BR/><BR/>Tomm<BR/><BR/>p.s. why am I giving you free advice? Want to know where to send the bill when it works?Tommhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06072854015300215347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-87449151200561583672007-04-03T00:14:00.000-04:002007-04-03T00:14:00.000-04:00KNB,Open your eyes. The LPC has become way to agg...KNB,<BR/><BR/>Open your eyes. The LPC has become way to aggressive. You are the first to criticize the CPC for its aggressiveness. If you think they're taking the "low road" why would you want to share it?<BR/><BR/>In regards to the Chavez comment, the LPC has to separate itself from the wingnut left, and get tougher on terrorism. It has to find common ground with "some" US foreign policy. And it has to quit hammering at "American neocon" "bushite", "American Republican" as adjectives for the CPC. Most American's may intensely dislike Bush and the direction of their government but that doesn't make them any more favorable to "foreigners" attacking their internal business. I know that because I lived there when Reagan was going through alzheimers. <BR/><BR/>I'm not just spewing rhetoric here.<BR/><BR/>Be true to your path. If its on a high road, then get on it. Listening to Kennedy use the word "fear" 3 times in the same sentence isn't making the LPC any friends. <BR/><BR/>TommTommhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06072854015300215347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-57636424452179922032007-04-02T23:22:00.000-04:002007-04-02T23:22:00.000-04:00McGuinty and Kennedy look like bullies? LOL! You...McGuinty and Kennedy look like bullies? LOL! You say this with a straight face with Jason Kenney sitting there grinning while spewing lies?<BR/><BR/>Personally, I don't like "overspeak" on any program. It muddles the point and I think Kennedy does do that sometimes, but if he didn't cut in, especially on Duffy, he'd never get to make his point and shoot down the lies that are being spoken. Duffy's not going to do it, he grins along with Kenney.<BR/><BR/>Tomm, chavez? You're usually much more reasonable than that.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-41544142588370608262007-04-02T23:15:00.001-04:002007-04-02T23:15:00.001-04:00BTW, when did Andrew Coyne go off the reservation?...<I>BTW, when did Andrew Coyne go off the reservation? </I> <BR/><BR/>:), a while back actually, he started pointing out what was not sitting right. I haven't always agreed with the man, but he's one I have for the most part respected, even more now. He's showing he's more about truth than politics and I say touche.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-28895546846807642402007-04-02T23:15:00.000-04:002007-04-02T23:15:00.000-04:00"not Hugo Chavez's northern ally." Come on. "If t..."not Hugo Chavez's northern ally." <BR/><BR/>Come on. <BR/><BR/>"If the LPC wants to win this game, they need to back off and present some policies."<BR/><BR/>Only someone that wants a Tory majority would advocate that approach. Yes policies, but hit back, and hit back HARD. Nobody is saying Baird is a "bully" on the Tory side are they?Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.com