tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post116930666910019153..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: The Insincere EnvironmentalistSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1169443507543991322007-01-22T00:25:00.000-05:002007-01-22T00:25:00.000-05:00burlivespipe,Wow, that's a lot of ugliness consid...burlivespipe,<BR/><BR/>Wow, that's a lot of ugliness considering you didn't acknowledge the truth in what I said.<BR/><BR/>You bring up a good point about the environemnt. It is often said that the CPC (or elements within) don't buy the science of a changing climate. You know what, that is a pointless position.<BR/><BR/>To the environmental "user" and the environmental manager, whether the climate is changing because I'm drinking kool-aid, or whatever it is you have in that pipe, the cause is meaningless. The point is adapting to the changes. Mitigation is 5% of the solution and requires global action, adaptation is how we survive and prosper.<BR/><BR/>TommAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1169364865431416032007-01-21T02:34:00.000-05:002007-01-21T02:34:00.000-05:00There will be some in the electorate, beyond the k...There will be some in the electorate, beyond the koolaid addicts like tOmm, who dont' care who thought up which policy first or where it came from. Good policy is good policy.<BR/>That being said, it would be incredulous to see the MSM eat up this donkey-sh*t and call it supper without mentioning that the same 'New Government' spent the past 12 months trashing and repealing the same plans. While nimrods wearing Tory tinfoil maybe able to hide their sh*t-eating grin behind their obedient nods, just where and when will the cracks start to show for a party that not only paid attention to and delivered the commandments on knocking climate change science, but has been circle-jerking with some of the biggest polluters and eviscerators that you can find on this planet.<BR/>Thankfully, Simpson and Wells, as usual (and this includes the final months of Martin's torturous reign) have it right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1169364302582404192007-01-21T02:25:00.000-05:002007-01-21T02:25:00.000-05:00ken chapman,You pose some questions that you think...ken chapman,<BR/><BR/>You pose some questions that you think have easy answers. The answers will surprise you.<BR/><BR/>Yes, Canadian's are ready to trust a new vision of Canada. Canadian's are starting to care again. That has translated into them firstly wanting fairness (LPC mis-translated this into politically correct government). Canadian's are now walking away from that and are looking for a Green Party or an NDP Party, or a new Liberal Party, ... or the CPC.<BR/><BR/>The answer is in who can articulate the vision. <BR/><BR/>The best question now becomes. which answer will make it through the media screen.<BR/><BR/>Whose 5 second sound bites will sound cold and callous? Whose 5 second sound bites sound warm and comforting?<BR/>Whose 5 second sound bites sound bold and assured? And, what mood are you in, whaich message will you feel drawn to?<BR/><BR/>So ken, the answer that breathes life into Canada into the future is the CPC answer. The answer that will capture the public's attention is still unknown.<BR/><BR/>I do know one thing. The sooner Harper can negate the LPC advantage on Dion's media green-ness, the worse off the LPC becomes. Each policy announcement is a nail. A revamped Clean Air Act is a whole bag of nails.<BR/><BR/>Green strength or NDP strength hurts Dion immediately Harper, only in the long term.<BR/><BR/>TommAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1169352620049739382007-01-20T23:10:00.000-05:002007-01-20T23:10:00.000-05:00How much money and effort has it cost the taxpayer...How much money and effort has it cost the taxpayers to cancel the "Liberal therefore it must be bad" environmentaly programs just to have Harper dust them off and pretend they are his own announcements.<BR/><BR/>Ideology trumping purpose and the Harper political focus sucks and I bet it is expensive to reinstate all the stuff he cut because it was "Liberal" at least in his mind.<BR/><BR/>I am told you have to add yellow to Tory blue to get green. Harper is doing that but his green looks very much like the Liberal Red in content and context that he cancelled because he did not think it was important.<BR/><BR/>Harper's minority government is being test driven by Canadians. So far it does not hold the road very well and is subject to erratic lane changes, over steering and sudden changes in direction - even when on on the straight (and narrow) parts of the course.<BR/><BR/>Is the Harper the kind of leadership you can to trust with your future and that or your children and grandchildren?kenchapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384045981190810115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1169347855016804042007-01-20T21:50:00.000-05:002007-01-20T21:50:00.000-05:00And, in 13 years, all the Conservatives could come...And, in 13 years, all the Conservatives could come up with was a pathetic paragraph in their platform. STFU indeed. <BR/><BR/>BTW, if you criticize the Liberal plan, you essentially criticize all the latest Tory announcements, because it's all rehash. Can't wait for tomorrow, when the "doer" re-introduces the same program he cancelled last year.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1169344679523315112007-01-20T20:57:00.000-05:002007-01-20T20:57:00.000-05:00"On the other hand, we have 13 years of Liberal li..."On the other hand, we have 13 years of Liberal lies and inaction on the environment upon which to our assessment of their future actions."<BR/><BR/>And 13 years of the Conservatives\PC\Reform\Alliance not calling them on it because until a few weeks ago, the didn't care because they didn't (and indeed most still don't) think global warming was real.<BR/><BR/>So the Liberals dropped the ball and the Conservatives happily let them.<BR/><BR/>In short, jon, shut the fuck up.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06941875334878452635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1169342707975969702007-01-20T20:25:00.000-05:002007-01-20T20:25:00.000-05:00Your only reason, Aaron, for accusing the Conserva...Your only reason, Aaron, for accusing the Conservatives of deliberately sabotaging environmental legislation is your own bias. On the other hand, we have 13 years of Liberal lies and inaction on the environment upon which to our assessment of their future actions.<BR/><BR/>I think the voting public is smarter than you think they are. We will find out at the next election.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1169320543112511692007-01-20T14:15:00.000-05:002007-01-20T14:15:00.000-05:00I really enjoy reading Jeffrey Simpson’s take on p...I really enjoy reading Jeffrey Simpson’s take on politics, but I think that he has left out something in the article that you link to.<BR/><BR/>Governements have a considerable amount of discretion between elections especially when one party has a majority. Promises are frequently broken. And initiatives may be allowed to die quietly in the day-to-day administration even while the government makes a public display of favoring them.<BR/><BR/>Although the perception of “sincerity” is presented as a murky concept by Simpson in the article, it is not an unintelligent question for a voter to ask. <BR/><BR/>Based on the foot-dragging by the conservatives over the last year and Stephen Harper’s own past statements, Canadians have good reason to suspect that promises concerning the environment will not be kept or allowed to fail by slow or even intentionally incompentent administration if the conservatives are re-elected.<BR/><BR/>In an important sense, it does not matter, though I doubt this will be the case, whether the Conservative promises look better on paper than the Liberals. I don’t believe that the Harper party will keep their promises on global warming.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12086209664270723549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-1169312005140953732007-01-20T11:53:00.000-05:002007-01-20T11:53:00.000-05:00Steve,Perhaps your right. Interesting how Simpson...Steve,<BR/><BR/>Perhaps your right. Interesting how Simpson and Coynes efforts on the same topic were almost complete opposites: Simpson thinks they care about sincerity and passion, rather than action; Coyne thinks they only need to show action (any action) to pacify the electorate. I'm sure there's a bit of truth in both.<BR/><BR/>But, in Harper's defence, he really doesn't get "passionate" about anything, so him not seeming passionate about the environment was hardly a surprise. But you're right, Dion does light up.Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12434267803807108634noreply@blogger.com