tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post1432513391226185326..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: And In This Corner...Steve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-81886770936286254372007-11-21T19:04:00.000-05:002007-11-21T19:04:00.000-05:00Tonight on Don Newman one of the panelists said pr...Tonight on Don Newman one of the panelists said prior to this he felt VL was an accident waiting to happen - and that he just proved him right.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-15469261570466384492007-11-21T18:32:00.000-05:002007-11-21T18:32:00.000-05:00"The Conservative response to any kind of criticis..."The Conservative response to any kind of criticism does seem to be a knee-jerk one doesn't it?"<BR/><BR/>I think it more natural, than a strategy. It's just a mean-spirited bunch, which is ironic because Van Loan is given such profile because of his soft tone.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-2340736544904970082007-11-21T18:30:00.000-05:002007-11-21T18:30:00.000-05:00Statesmanship is not in the CPC vocabulary - they ...Statesmanship is not in the CPC vocabulary - they need classes.<BR/><BR/>The way Van Loan sets it out it appears that Ontarionians would be left with less than one vote per person.<BR/><BR/>The other provinces should attract more people to build up their population if they want more seats than they are getting - simple.\<BR/><BR/>So, the CPC's have insulted Lorne Calvert, McGuinty, Williams and bringing the country together - ya right.<BR/><BR/>Truth is - Flaherty, Baird, Van Loan - Harrisites hate McGuinty and are out to get him and more angry than ever that he won the election in spite of their efforts to interfere in provincial politics.<BR/><BR/>It was McGuinty that brought the Harrisites down remember.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-68907147599283374982007-11-21T17:37:00.000-05:002007-11-21T17:37:00.000-05:00The Conservative response to any kind of criticism...The Conservative response to any kind of criticism does seem to be a knee-jerk one doesn't it? Liberals should be developing a strategy to exploit that glaring weekness.<BR/><BR/>Let's see they have alienated the Maritimes, they have alienated a large number of folks in Saskatchewan and now they appear to be attempting to alienate the voters of Ontario.<BR/><BR/>Political genius indeed!!ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-20304474369899498592007-11-21T14:41:00.000-05:002007-11-21T14:41:00.000-05:00"I believe if the new legislation passes with Onta..."I believe if the new legislation passes with Ontario singled out in this way, it will be extremely difficult to correct it any time in the future, as Ontario will speak alone. At the moment, there are 3 provinces underrepresented with the present legislation and we have a better chance of correcting this with 3 provinces pushing."<BR/><BR/>That's a great point, the window is closing.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-3463652265050279352007-11-21T14:39:00.000-05:002007-11-21T14:39:00.000-05:00I believe if the new legislation passes with Ontar...I believe if the new legislation passes with Ontario singled out in this way, it will be extremely difficult to correct it any time in the future, as Ontario will speak alone. At the moment, there are 3 provinces underrepresented with the present legislation and we have a better chance of correcting this with 3 provinces pushing. Harper surely recognized this and implemented a divide and conquer technique.<BR/><BR/>As far as relative voice in Ottawa, the current and proposed systems are identical for Ontario, so we have nothing to lose and should fight hard now while the topic of equal representation interests more than one province. Good for McGuinty. I've written him as well as my local (NDP) MP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-89168001942152567392007-11-21T13:38:00.000-05:002007-11-21T13:38:00.000-05:00van Loan does not deserve to serve an Ontario ridi...van Loan does not deserve to serve an Ontario riding.<BR/><BR/>Why should our (Ontario) vote be worth only 50% or 60% of other Canadians. One-person/one-vote (of equal value) is a fundamental bedrock of democracy.<BR/><BR/>This is part of Harper's long term plan to shift the country to the control of his right wing bandits.Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-47512136316415204712007-11-21T13:08:00.000-05:002007-11-21T13:08:00.000-05:00catherineWhat I mean, is this legislation does giv...catherine<BR/><BR/>What I mean, is this legislation does give Ontario more seats than at present, which is a relative improvement.<BR/><BR/>anon<BR/><BR/>What exactly are you babbling on about?Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-50596056958726774922007-11-21T13:04:00.000-05:002007-11-21T13:04:00.000-05:00How do you mean it "lessens the disparity" -- do y...How do you mean it "lessens the disparity" -- do you mean for BC and Alberta. Ontario will get 4 of the 7 new seats under the existing legislation, which means 110/315 and the Conservatives propose to change this to 116/330 so that Ontario neither loses ground nor gains ground. I don't see this as lessening the disparity for Ontario, and in fact, projecting to the future, it will make it worse for Ontario, since there would be new legislation which only corrects inequities with respect to a larger province. It is a step backward for Ontario to be singled out based solely on size.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-67862407388155034622007-11-21T12:51:00.000-05:002007-11-21T12:51:00.000-05:00All of Ontario thinks he's the smallest man of Con...All of Ontario thinks he's the smallest man of Confederation. <BR/><BR/>He didn't win the election, there was no viable option. <BR/>John Tory was just a better looking McGuinty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com