tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post155579206607489662..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: McGuinty Should Step AsideSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-59062071736435641952011-10-12T11:18:58.650-04:002011-10-12T11:18:58.650-04:00I'll make a couple of observations. First the ...I'll make a couple of observations. First the Liberals almost took Trinity-Spadina(Olivia's riding federally) albeit with a star candidate(I think though the nature of Toronto is the these seats will always be contested by star candidates)from a long time NDP veteran.<br /><br />Second is that you have reaportionment coming up in a few years and the possibility of additional new seats being added for Ontario in Ottawa indirectly affecting the seat count in Queens Park(as long as it assumed that both levels of government want to have the same number of MPs/MPPs). All of this means that a riding such as TS might go from one NDP seat to three Liberal seats by the time of next election.<br /><br />Third I think the NDP victory in Brampton was the most interesting of the night as I think we may be seeing an early glimpse of the future of Ontario politics with the PC's as the party of rural Ontario, the Liberals as the party upscale urban Ontario and the NDP as the party of less well off suburban and exurban Ontario.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03894651289037073128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-14711064820096444842011-10-09T20:39:57.513-04:002011-10-09T20:39:57.513-04:00Indeed Steve I think this post is spot on. The st...Indeed Steve I think this post is spot on. The star aligned perfectly, almost perfectly, for the Liberals. Had Layton not died I think we would be in majority territory and comfortably. <br /><br />It seems to me it is time for the Premier to, quietly, start planning for his exit. I honestly have no idea who could replace him currently, He is, however, exactly what the Premier of Ontario should be, level headed, smart and bilingual. We would need someone with those qualitiesDave Brodbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13562001688366641218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-91012317901326011852011-10-09T05:20:34.575-04:002011-10-09T05:20:34.575-04:00i agree this talk is too soon. more apt to dwell o...i agree this talk is too soon. more apt to dwell on hudak's future, considering. mcginty just reversed a major trend while also giving grits across the country something good to feel about, while giving the finger to harper. although in the scope of things, its likely the best-case scenario, let him enjoy the moment before we start rolling out the red carpet for gerard... (who'd make a fabulous premier)..rockfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835472375196889875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-74264839549284873442011-10-09T01:16:09.114-04:002011-10-09T01:16:09.114-04:00I think McGuinty should stay there for at least th...I think McGuinty should stay there for at least the first 3 years. We elected him to lead the party and I think the Liberals are the only party fit to be in control of our government for the next 4 years. As early election would be irresponsible. We are facing some rough times and change. The opposing governments should stop playing politics and provide the civil services we pay them for and get things done.Edwin Currenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15375249657670376989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-81705636921003169502011-10-08T19:03:45.401-04:002011-10-08T19:03:45.401-04:00I come from the riding of the Environment Minister...I come from the riding of the Environment Minister in Ontario, who was really liked until the Wind Turbines hit the fan" I live in a small city but there is a lot of country in my riding..next riding the same thing happened to the Liberal MPP..A Eliz.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11088834823455226692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-35247672170437522012011-10-08T15:26:58.085-04:002011-10-08T15:26:58.085-04:00I would have thought that into his third term, eve...I would have thought that into his third term, even if with a "major majority" he would be thinking of a successor for the next election.rwwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00512582677240907287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-27727858361895560942011-10-08T15:23:02.019-04:002011-10-08T15:23:02.019-04:00I'm not there yet, I think he could win an ele...I'm not there yet, I think he could win an election he chooses to have the government fall on in the 24-36 month time line. - But hey, I thought Iggy should have run a campaign based on the reason they defeated the present PM - so what do I know?JimmEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703715618040666970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-88161655693536799582011-10-08T13:44:43.806-04:002011-10-08T13:44:43.806-04:00I'm not saying he leaves tomorrow, so not sure...I'm not saying he leaves tomorrow, so not sure I get the too soon sentiment. You should always think ahead.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-16587593355077623402011-10-08T13:06:23.403-04:002011-10-08T13:06:23.403-04:00I'm not disagreeing, but I think it's enti...I'm not disagreeing, but I think it's entirely too soon to put that out there. The guy just won us a third term we didn't expect and now we're just asking him to step aside?<br /><br />Yeah, too soon.Kyle H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06049961780427560881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-64927461734532523492011-10-08T12:45:10.295-04:002011-10-08T12:45:10.295-04:00Omar McGuinty has always defined himself as a prov...Omar McGuinty has always defined himself as a provincialist, and in fact, that's exactly what his thinking is, provincial.<br />Steve, I agree he should think about transition.<br /><br />The fact is, his 'we have a major minority' comment, shows that nothing has been learned. <br /><br />Liberals need to embrace greater democracy, or the NDP will simply become the alternative to the Conservatives, and it is also becoming apparent that this right wing form of conservative, the tea party movement, the corporatist agenda is about walk into a wall of its own making.<br /><br />Genuine progressivism is going to return, and if Liberals aren't ahead of that curve, they are done forever.Jerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-32946512909657552122011-10-08T12:04:59.076-04:002011-10-08T12:04:59.076-04:00I think that the blog post makes a good point. I ...I think that the blog post makes a good point. I would merely add the observation that a successful transition means getting a plan in place to replace McGuinty a year or two down the road. In fact there should also be efforts made to bring new blood into the party leadership, the caucus and the cabinet.bucketshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14335699928912269666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-43834855225700387822011-10-08T10:05:39.554-04:002011-10-08T10:05:39.554-04:00Bob Rae could run for the provincial Liberal leade...Bob Rae could run for the provincial Liberal leadership position.Skinny Dipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12818163310102120130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-61516771306530222802011-10-08T09:37:11.547-04:002011-10-08T09:37:11.547-04:00Are there ever whispers of federal politics for Mr...Are there ever whispers of federal politics for Mr McGuinty? He seems to me a credible individual for national Liberal leader. He is certainly not as grating as his brother and apparently doesn't command the same Ontario populace loathing as Bob Rae. I think he would appeal down this way and perhaps even in Quebec? I dunno, the fact he is a winner is something federal Liberals might want to look at given their last two kicks at the can.Omarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12058734544373976550noreply@blogger.com