tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post2113384624529513808..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Do We Want An Election Or Not?Steve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-35213011893760591862010-12-27T08:41:52.426-05:002010-12-27T08:41:52.426-05:00Another poll, Quebec only, a sides with the Angus ...Another poll, Quebec only, a sides with the Angus Reid poll:<br /><br />http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/national/201012/26/01-4355555-les-quebecois-veulent-des-elections.phpSteve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-18562405269681083972010-12-24T15:34:19.709-05:002010-12-24T15:34:19.709-05:00Steve V said...
"...the reason Harper is sayi...Steve V said...<br /><i>"...the reason Harper is saying we don't need an election is because he knows that unless he gets a majority, this is it."</i><br /><br />And at anywhere between 4-8% below his 2008 popularity levels, he isn't very likely to win one this next time around either. And yes regardless of their bravado, some within the CPC (the smarter ones, like Jim Prentice) are starting to think of life post-Harper.Tof KWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15756310841374198056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-65370082632172383712010-12-24T15:05:16.271-05:002010-12-24T15:05:16.271-05:00Mound
And, there you go... The reason Harper is ...Mound<br /><br />And, there you go... The reason Harper is saying we don't need an election is because he knows that unless he gets a majority, this is it. <br /><br />I am taking the long view here. I don't fancy our odds of winning, although possible, particularly a coalition scenario. However, if Harper has a diminished mandate, that will set the wheels in motion and we will see fissures in the conservative family, knives, jockeying, all this nonsense that plagues the Liberals right now.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-86698651714145709972010-12-24T14:20:32.227-05:002010-12-24T14:20:32.227-05:00I certainly want an election. A good friend of mi...I certainly want an election. A good friend of mine, who has been a Tory insider for more than 40-years, tells me that Harper won't survive another minority win. The knives are already being honed. It sounds like a lot of Tories have had enough of life in the Ozarks with the hillbillies. Without their feigned unity, the right could become very interesting again.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-15463362685720384902010-12-23T16:29:47.693-05:002010-12-23T16:29:47.693-05:00It is worth noting that EKOS found direction of go...It is worth noting that EKOS found direction of gov't at 10 year low.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-44947364377747563282010-12-23T16:00:18.027-05:002010-12-23T16:00:18.027-05:00Agreed. I don't think we have particularly st...Agreed. I don't think we have particularly strong feelings.<br /><br />I'd also like them to start gauging strength of choice, because I'm convinced everyone just chases 20% of the Ontario electorate that change their mind on a whim.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-85557295795120097962010-12-23T15:56:26.451-05:002010-12-23T15:56:26.451-05:00They cared at the time for the moment last year, p...They cared at the time for the moment last year, primarily due to media framing. A few days into an elxn, it would be different.<br /><br />You're right on the dunno, but even with those numbers it would still understate the don't give a crap factor. Om the yes or no elxn side, I want to know how strongly you feel that, and if it would impact your vote or not.That would give a different picture, imo.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-27978782939972901122010-12-23T15:46:43.375-05:002010-12-23T15:46:43.375-05:00"We have minimal governance, ineffective parl...<i>"We have minimal governance, ineffective parliamentary sessions and a leader who continues to lead without the mandate to do so."</i><br /><br />Well, Harper did in fact get a mandate in 2008 to lead Parliament. However the voters also kept him from winning a majority, which indicates they do not trust him to be in full control of government. It is Harper's failure to work well with others that creates the minimal governance and ineffective parliamentary sessions you mentioned.<br /><br />So if the electorate begins to bitch and complain about our ineffective parliament, they should look to see who exactly is ensuring that is happening.Tof KWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15756310841374198056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-36321441664793735222010-12-23T15:15:04.593-05:002010-12-23T15:15:04.593-05:00The question might be whether Canadian's feel ...The question might be whether Canadian's feel we need an election, rather than whether we want one.<br />It does make sense from the perspective of whether the country is in the right direction.<br />If you support Harper, you want the chance for him to form a majority, and from a Liberal supporter perspective, I want the chance to see how Ignatieff will do.<br />If either are unsuccessful, then I want to see what happens then. Like most Canadians I am tired of the status-quo..things are not particularly effective right now. We have minimal governance, ineffective parliamentary sessions and a leader who continues to lead without the mandate to do so.<br />So, lets get on with itweeblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591531825570909900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-15715114341306749982010-12-23T14:17:36.645-05:002010-12-23T14:17:36.645-05:00That's why the "don't know" shou...That's why the "don't know" should at least be included, to get the best gauge of mood. <br /><br />All these polls aside, my gut tells me that it has been long enough since the last election that there is little risk for the party that pulls the trigger.<br /><br />The only caveat to people don't give a crap, is when the Libs threatened after one year, they sure seemed to. Much different now however IMHO...Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-6055587938741900392010-12-23T14:06:15.293-05:002010-12-23T14:06:15.293-05:00While people will usually answer that question one...While people will usually answer that question one way or another in a poll, I'm of the firm opinion that most people don't really give a crap.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.com