tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post2181157413914702351..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Bigger Rooms?Steve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-64918215638000619232009-04-03T00:57:00.000-04:002009-04-03T00:57:00.000-04:00I'm pretty sure the average donation is similar fo...I'm pretty sure the average donation is similar for the Conservatives. <BR/><BR/>"far longer than you've known what a blog is."<BR/><BR/>What the hell is that tripe anyways? Son.<BR/><BR/>A collection of impotent whiners...Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-47078578217231825482009-04-03T00:08:00.000-04:002009-04-03T00:08:00.000-04:00Steve, it's not exactly a secret that the Conserva...Steve, it's not exactly a secret that the Conservatives have been far more successful at small donations. They, like the Republicans and Democrats, have successfully mobilized their base, and that base is where you get those donations. <BR/><BR/>You ask why you're "only seeing this now?" Well, I suppose that depends on <I>why</I> the people who can pay a thousand dollars a head weren't as generous before. I couldn't presume to guess why they might have been dissuaded from this kind of generosity. <BR/><BR/>(You're the one "calling a spade a spade".)<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure why you're taking shots at "messengers" either, Steve. I've been making the case for liberalism online, with a small "l" or otherwise, far longer than you've known what a blog <I>is</I>. I'm no conservative concern troll, and became interested in the Liberal party precisely <I>because</I> it can be, well, liberal.<BR/><BR/>But I've also seen that the big "L" and the little "l" aren't necessarily related. They may be. They may not be. But it's a valid question, and your party's success at connecting with people who can pay a thousand dollars a plate is completely irrelevant to answering it.<BR/><BR/>(After all, the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_(Japan)" REL="nofollow">Liberal Democrats</A> have always been good at <B>that</B>. But nobody would call them "liberal".)<BR/><BR/>No, you resolve that question by looking at whether or not the party can connect with the people who take its values most seriously. And, judging by that <A HREF="http://redtory.wordpress.com/2009/04/01/lpc-execs-to-reformers-get-stuffed/#comment-26044" REL="nofollow">policy-free, renewal-free, election-free convention</A> you've got coming up, and the continuing questions about how and whether that mysterious un-examined policy will differ from Harper's, I'd say <I>that</I> connection might be looking a bit frayed.Demostheneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14552994996411944134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-81980416857191642352009-04-02T22:41:00.000-04:002009-04-02T22:41:00.000-04:00I must say too, I find it "more about the messenge...I must say too, I find it "more about the messenger", that anyone could find fault, or try and downplay a one night show that raised more than we normally do in an entire quarter. It's sort of like the people who complain we should be 40 plus in the polls already (I guess they missed the last election), to try and make the recent spate of polls seem weaker than they really are. Stating the obvious isn't cheerleading, it's calling a spade a spade. Weird place, this blogosphere sometimes...Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-44486901221708557272009-04-02T22:34:00.000-04:002009-04-02T22:34:00.000-04:00If that were true, then why are we only seeing thi...If that were true, then why are we only seeing this now? I don't hear anyone mentioning where, and what city, the vast majority of Conservative money pours in from. Strange that. Also, the Libs just had a fundraiser in BC that raised 200000, and the week before they put over 1000 in a room, at a mere 10 bucks a pop in Quebec.<BR/><BR/>Just to add, smaller fundraisers have done well, not to mention a decided uptick in small donations from the VF. It ain't just big donors, not that there's anything wrong with that.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-56796466421059215152009-04-02T21:15:00.000-04:002009-04-02T21:15:00.000-04:00I don't think the Liberals have really had trouble...I don't think the Liberals have really had trouble supporting people who can pay a thousand dollars a head in Toronto. <BR/><BR/>It's the ones paying twenty bucks a month everywhere else that seem to elude them.Demostheneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14552994996411944134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-86737032147578725032009-04-02T14:05:00.000-04:002009-04-02T14:05:00.000-04:00Two weeks ago in Quebec, and you had to pay to get...Two weeks ago in Quebec, and you had to pay to get in ;)<BR/><BR/>That was a good night for Garth.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-34304646466121627312009-04-02T13:55:00.000-04:002009-04-02T13:55:00.000-04:00Has Ignatieff managed to fill a room like this yet...Has Ignatieff managed to fill a room like <A HREF="http://runesmith.blogspot.com/2008/08/dionturner-show-late-night-photo-dump.html" REL="nofollow">this</A> yet?Jennifer Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14610902519752808810noreply@blogger.com