tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post3839438925301324675..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Trap Or BlusterSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-90493170533515432652007-10-05T10:36:00.000-04:002007-10-05T10:36:00.000-04:00"Harper clearly does not want the delays and obstr..."Harper clearly does not want the delays and obstruction from the last Parliament. He has set the scene where that sort of obstruction, primarily caused by opposition dominated committee's and Liberal dominated Senate delays will be a legitimate purpose to ask the GG for an election."<BR/><BR/>Tomm<BR/><BR/>I hope you realize these delays are not all the fault of the opposition - the government shares responsibility. Harper's refusal to acknowledge the interests and desires of 65% of Canadians, as represented by their elected MP's, violates the democratic principles he claims to adhere to.<BR/><BR/>The only people who absolve Harper are the ones who are already blinded by his "divine" light.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-65707214430315313602007-10-05T01:27:00.000-04:002007-10-05T01:27:00.000-04:00Steve,Harper clearly does not want the delays and ...Steve,<BR/><BR/>Harper clearly does not want the delays and obstruction from the last Parliament. He has set the scene where that sort of obstruction, primarily caused by opposition dominated committee's and Liberal dominated Senate delays will be a legitimate purpose to ask the GG for an election.<BR/><BR/>The public will buy it because all Harper said was he wants the opportunity to govern and that is consistent with the public wish. All things are true. The public seems OK with a minority government. The public wants it to work. Harper will be able to legitimately say that it isn't working and therefore the government is frozen and requires a renewal. <BR/><BR/>The Liberal's get pegged with the black hats. If they accept the black hats, they keep their pride but lose support. If they react angrily they appear to be whiners and power hungry disrupters. <BR/><BR/>If you saw Rex Murphy he also believes that a trap has been set.<BR/><BR/>TommTommhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06072854015300215347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-56243226942962607092007-10-04T22:37:00.000-04:002007-10-04T22:37:00.000-04:00gayleDon't apply to Canwest ;)gayle<BR/><BR/>Don't apply to <A HREF="http://www.macleans.ca/canada/wire/article.jsp?content=n1004158A" REL="nofollow">Canwest</A> ;)Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-61815547050053578372007-10-04T22:35:00.000-04:002007-10-04T22:35:00.000-04:00"Another talking head suggested that the Lib's com..."Another talking head suggested that the Lib's come to consensus, agree to vote against, yet not defeat, then all the traitors stand up and vote against Dion."<BR/><BR/>Knb, I heard that too, which is one of the more ridiculous suggestions I've heard. It was posited as though people where actually considering it, when it is so obviously nonsense. Somebody reads way too much Shakespeare me thinks.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-30649544336098756952007-10-04T22:26:00.000-04:002007-10-04T22:26:00.000-04:00Another talking head suggested that the Lib's come...Another talking head suggested that the Lib's come to consensus, agree to vote against, yet not defeat, then all the traitors stand up and vote against Dion.<BR/><BR/>Duffy of course released that. Sick.<BR/><BR/>I don't buy it because it's suicide, not just for the next election, but every one there after. If they don't get that concept, they are dumber than I thought.<BR/><BR/>What Harper laid out is bluster. It contravenes what is the norm and what he's proposed in the past.<BR/><BR/>His big gun is aimed at the Lib's. The Lib's have problems right now, agreed, but do not under estimate their ability to work through parlimentary process.<BR/><BR/>In other words, don't sniff the ink that is being scrawled at the moment. It will make you delusional and perhaps catch you in Harp's new drug program.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-30589401165498481842007-10-04T19:12:00.000-04:002007-10-04T19:12:00.000-04:00Wow - I am just as smart as a talking head.They sh...Wow - I am just as smart as a talking head.<BR/><BR/>They should give me a job :).Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-55823535384659971952007-10-04T18:34:00.000-04:002007-10-04T18:34:00.000-04:00"I am not sure there is anything preventing Dion f..."I am not sure there is anything preventing Dion from abstaining on the Throne speech and voting against one of these so-called confidence matters when they come up."<BR/><BR/>One of the talking heads mentioned that today. The Liberals abstain, but eventually, if Harper keeps pushing, they vote against legislation, for fear that they begin to look irrelevant.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-7087102092241469032007-10-04T17:01:00.000-04:002007-10-04T17:01:00.000-04:00I am not sure there is anything preventing Dion fr...I am not sure there is anything preventing Dion from abstaining on the Throne speech and voting against one of these so-called confidence matters when they come up.<BR/><BR/>I think the only people who are actually aware of the mechanics of all this have already parked their votes anyway. I doubt Dion would lose anything that way, and it would certainly buy him some time (and put Harper back in the HofC for a while).Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-24787634457243522002007-10-04T16:39:00.000-04:002007-10-04T16:39:00.000-04:00"Probably he knows that since his numbers are not ..."Probably he knows that since his numbers are not going up, this is his one and only "best" chance to get one - because once the liberals' house is in order people will come back."<BR/><BR/>Not only would the house be more in order, Harper would be more fatigued from Question Period on the Hill. <BR/><BR/>Me thinks this is Harper's best chance at getting re-elected, period.Dr. Tuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00930678454023644407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-68371281108309416782007-10-04T13:56:00.000-04:002007-10-04T13:56:00.000-04:00gayle"I suppose he may think that if he publicly a...gayle<BR/><BR/>"I suppose he may think that if he publicly agrees there is no way he can win a majority he may dupe people into feeling comfortable enough to vote for him, thereby getting that majority after all."<BR/><BR/>I see Duceppe really playing the "a majority comes through Quebec" angle, and while people might be prepared to flirt with Harper, when push comes to shove, I don't think they will give him unchecked power.<BR/><BR/>Jesus<BR/><BR/>"making it up as he goes along"<BR/><BR/>Which explains why the Cons ran out of ideas barely a year into their mandate.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-67032704378550113212007-10-04T13:46:00.000-04:002007-10-04T13:46:00.000-04:00it's not a trap, just another case of Stevie tryin...it's not a trap, just another case of Stevie trying to look in control, like this is his decvision. Just last week, papers were saying "Duceppe draws the line," and "Dion draws the line" concerning the Throne speech. Today, some journalists are saying "Harper draws the line." <BR/><BR/>Today, whispers of in-fighting in the New-getting old government. I think he's scrambling, making it up as he goes along, stunned that his self-perceived brilliance hasn't given him a majority. I hear people who don't like him say he's intelligent. I disagree. Imagination and a healthy emotional range contribute to intelligence, and his limitations in those two areas prevent him from accurately assessing people and situations, hampering his ability to make intelligent decisions.900ft Jesushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882830831096870992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-11096634814236618552007-10-04T13:20:00.000-04:002007-10-04T13:20:00.000-04:00I suppose he may think that if he publicly agrees ...I suppose he may think that if he publicly agrees there is no way he can win a majority he may dupe people into feeling comfortable enough to vote for him, thereby getting that majority after all.<BR/><BR/>Or, he could think what happened to the liberal party during the last election may happen again, and certain elements will work to sabotage their election campaign, thereby giving him a majority.<BR/><BR/>Probably he knows that since his numbers are not going up, this is his one and only "best" chance to get one - because once the liberals' house is in order people will come back.<BR/><BR/>Certainly the "At Issue" panel on CBC last night did not seem impressed.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.com