tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post4051239668310930789..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Challenges For MulcairSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-11260433314914317872012-03-27T15:42:27.819-04:002012-03-27T15:42:27.819-04:00I always had a strong feeling that, if Mulcair man...I always had a strong feeling that, if Mulcair managed to become leader, that the foot-stomping and temper tantrums of the left wing of the NDP would follow pretty quickly. Typical reaction from a party that, traditionally, has preferred being right over being elected.<br /><br />Yes, Mulcair isn't the most ideologically pure of the choices that were available - far from it. But judging from the only two provinces in the country in which the NDP are actually in government, a good dose of fiscal conservatism and reigning in of party purists is just what the doctor ordered. Gary Doer was no socialist, and neither are Greg Selinger or Darrel Dexter. If they were, they wouldn't have been premiers.<br /><br />Brian Topp as leader would surely have satisfied the core NDPers.....of course, they would be the only ones who would vote for him in the federal election.danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16941331790158166428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-42510843005700584782012-03-26T20:25:17.076-04:002012-03-26T20:25:17.076-04:00My guess is Layton's people are heading for th...<i>My guess is Layton's people are heading for the provinces.</i><br /><br />I wonder how much they learned during the 2011 campaign is applicable to any further campaigns? Some of the seats in Quebec were won with <a href="http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/03/22/free-ride/" rel="nofollow">zero dollars being spent.</a> Layton was such a strong brand, they elected people who'd never visited the ridings. They elected one person who'd gone to Vegas during the election. The emphasis on the campaign was always on Layton -- in my riding, they had Jack Layton signs, and my riding's nowhere near the Danforth (the signs were bigger than signs for the actual NDP candidate). <br /><br />How many times could this be repeated? And is this something that <a href="http://warrenkinsella.com/2011/09/andrea-horwath-thinks-this-a-defence-of-anthony-marco/" rel="nofollow">we really want to?</a>sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-29902915173802140292012-03-26T20:03:39.093-04:002012-03-26T20:03:39.093-04:00Personality, this could well be Mulcair's chie...<i>Personality, this could well be Mulcair's chief Achilles heel.</i><br /><br />Going by his first day back in the House of Commons, he has made no attempt at <a href="http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/03/26/the-commons-toms-first-day-at-school/" rel="nofollow">fixing this.</a> Taunting another opposition leader in that way is not classy.sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-38739842119552793652012-03-26T18:24:15.823-04:002012-03-26T18:24:15.823-04:00Jerry,
Alta election - April 23 2012
BC election -...Jerry,<br />Alta election - April 23 2012<br />BC election -May 14, 2013<br />NS election -June, 2013<br />NB election -September 2014<br />ONT Municipal election -October 2014<br /><br />Mound,<br />I like the idea a lot, but I think she's be bored by the jobJimmEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703715618040666970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-45485088144532270852012-03-26T17:53:53.682-04:002012-03-26T17:53:53.682-04:00@Jerry - a "democratic woman" resembling...@Jerry - a "democratic woman" resembling the one I've been championing for years - Louise Arbour? If there is anyone who could transform the LPC, she's it.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-8337533648587881342012-03-26T17:50:26.849-04:002012-03-26T17:50:26.849-04:00My guess is Layton's people are heading for th...My guess is Layton's people are heading for the provinces. That's where the seasoned winning folks will go, an NDP in Quebec would get rid of the Liberal-Conservatism of Charest; McGuinty could fall, and Ontarions may have had enough of him, but dislike Hudak and his Lack of Common Sense Reactionary even more, so the NDP could benefit from Layton's crew during a campaign, who knows. Rob Ford is on a losing streak in Toronto, but mayoralty races are a ways off. As is the next next federal one.Jerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-75009680237930197602012-03-26T17:05:08.438-04:002012-03-26T17:05:08.438-04:00I wouldn't put it past the superficial to fill...I wouldn't put it past the superficial to fill a basket that brings down Harper and Mulcair, ie the unattractive bully boy basket, they both get into it, and there is the tipping point: the Liberals find a democratic woman to lead the country into a global round of fair trade economic agreement, that bans slavery, guarantees the rights of those who enter into indentured servitude agreements around the world: and create fair share governments at home, based on credit union and cooperative principles. <br /> If the Liberals 'free' enterprise from corporatism by repudiating neo-liberalism; by choosing democratic economic liberalism: they become the model for liberalism around the world,and the beast dies for good.Jerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-26770504453684747862012-03-26T16:12:21.941-04:002012-03-26T16:12:21.941-04:00A lot of core players leaving the NDP team. Given...A lot of core players leaving the NDP team. Given how shrewd and successful, replacing them won't be easy.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-9261982172823447652012-03-26T15:45:07.985-04:002012-03-26T15:45:07.985-04:00Mulcair must bring people together, that is a lead...<i>Mulcair must bring people together, that is a leader's primary job, should he fail to give voice to others, domineer and dismiss, we will see his leadership undermined, there will be problems moving forward. </i><br /><br />Hey, guess who wants to <a href="http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/03/26/about-that-socialism/" rel="nofollow">remove socialism from the constitution.</a> If Layton wasn't able to convince people after his big win in 2011, I have a feeling Mulcair might have a tougher time on this.<br /><br /><i>Another thing about the "angry man" comparison to Harper and why citing Harper may not be the best defence for Dippers is that Harper had spent years first as CA leader then CPC leader trying to overcome his angry image to become PM</i><br /><br />He did, but I also think it helped that Harper that he had no competition at the time. No one was going to back Stockwell Day. Peter MacKay said he wasn't going to run. Harper's two competitors in the Conservative leadership race were Belinda Stronach and Tony Clement. The party didn't have a choice -- it was Harper or nothing. It was sort of the last man on earth stragedy... ;) <br /><br /><i>Mulcair, claims Dobbins, even tried to get a cabinet position in Harper's government. Really?</i><br /><br />Here's an earlier article about <a href="http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/03/01/john-ivison-mulcair-asked-for-conservative-cabinet-post-before-joining-ndp-tory-insider/" rel="nofollow">Mulcair asking for a cabinet position from the Conservative government.</a> Take with a grain of salt, since the information comes from a Conservative source.sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-71143529698068899162012-03-26T15:31:39.695-04:002012-03-26T15:31:39.695-04:00Interesting, thanks Mound.Interesting, thanks Mound.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-71141244544487725282012-03-26T15:11:04.051-04:002012-03-26T15:11:04.051-04:00Sorry, wrong link
http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2012/...Sorry, wrong link<br /><br />http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2012/03/26/Mourn-Mulcairs-Win/?utm_source=mondayheadlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=260312The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-23547176081528738122012-03-26T15:10:07.077-04:002012-03-26T15:10:07.077-04:00If Murray Dobbins is right about Mulcair, the NDP ...If Murray Dobbins is right about Mulcair, the NDP has just shot itself in both feet. He may be the first NDP leader who abhors progressivism. Mulcair, claims Dobbins, even tried to get a cabinet position in Harper's government. Really?<br /><br />http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=11281<br /><br />If Dobbins take on Mulcair holds any water, the weekend was manna from heaven for the Libs.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-77237925877935453262012-03-26T14:50:41.029-04:002012-03-26T14:50:41.029-04:00Another thing about the "angry man" comp...Another thing about the "angry man" comparison to Harper and why citing Harper may not be the best defence for Dippers is that Harper had spent years first as CA leader then CPC leader trying to overcome his angry image to become PM, and it took a massive amount of scandal on the then current Lib government for him to get his first minority and a non-stop barrage against the Libs (with clear cooperation from the Layton NDP more interested in replacing the Libs than stopping Harper) ever since to grow it. Mulcair has none of that and if one is to compare the two this way then Mulcair might need at least one or two more elections to win. Personally though I think more that by the time Harper wears out on the voting public (and something we politically interested folks always must remember is most people, even most voters really don't have strong political convictions, they just want what they see/believe will provide them with the most stability and good government) will not want another "angry" style leader but want to return to what used to be more normal in the pre-Harper Canada.<br /><br />Do I know that this will be the case? Of course not, but I do think it is not an unreasonable possibility to be considering along with any other. Harper has taken this country in directions no one has ever seen and shown an arrogance and nastiness never before seen in a PM of any political persuasion. I suspect there will be backlash against that as well as him specifically when his time comes (may it come by the next election, it should never have come to this, thanks Jack) as well as the policy direction of his government and anyone that seems similar in tone may be tarred with a similar brush whether it is fair or not, and Mulcair may well fit that mold. We shall see.Scotianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06284856315992405261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-61576612165829786932012-03-26T13:27:31.692-04:002012-03-26T13:27:31.692-04:00Thanks man. Turns out you were right, the online v...Thanks man. Turns out you were right, the online voting was abysmal! It was a bit disappointing, because there was really no way for anybody to "move", knowing there was such anemic online activity to truly make a typical convention impact.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-48932427387649534312012-03-26T13:25:18.239-04:002012-03-26T13:25:18.239-04:00Insightful stuff, Steve!Insightful stuff, Steve!Kyle H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06049961780427560881noreply@blogger.com