tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post5061313979290512526..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: "The Prime Minister was not involved"Steve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-5802461514507843762007-08-12T15:04:00.000-04:002007-08-12T15:04:00.000-04:00I wonder if Sandra goes home at night and cries? f...I wonder if Sandra goes home at night and cries? from abcer in toronto<BR/>------------<BR/><BR/>How can she cry? You need a heart and feelings to be able to weep.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-91791962902335471072007-08-10T18:00:00.000-04:002007-08-10T18:00:00.000-04:00Yeah, I thought that was kind of funny when I read...Yeah, I thought that was kind of funny when I read it this morning. I distinctly remember furrowing my brow. The PM unaware of something like this? The micromanaging Steve Harper nodding off for a nanosecond? Like hell.<BR/><BR/>Now both he and Martin look like unindicted co-conspirators.Dr.Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00416571487451925246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-43510969629729974412007-08-10T15:42:00.000-04:002007-08-10T15:42:00.000-04:00Now we know why we haven't seen Rona for months. I...Now we know why we haven't seen Rona for months. In Harper's government, the minister responsible for federal/provincial relations is just a cover for minister for cia relations...Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-48064327522575139492007-08-10T13:47:00.000-04:002007-08-10T13:47:00.000-04:00lol"Be careful what you wish for.The evil PMHarper...lol<BR/><BR/>"Be careful what you wish for.<BR/>The evil PMHarper may be persuaded to release more info, later.<BR/>Dion was Chretiens minister of federal/provincial relations at the time."<BR/><BR/>If you don't think Conservative minions have been pouring over the entire file for months, you live in a dream world. If Stephen Harper is sitting on one sentence that damages the former Liberal government, I'll stop blogging.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-6369106865321408262007-08-10T13:28:00.000-04:002007-08-10T13:28:00.000-04:00Be careful what you wish for.The evil PMHarper may...Be careful what you wish for.<BR/>The evil PMHarper may be persuaded to release more info, later.<BR/>Dion was Chretiens minister of federal/provincial relations at the time.<BR/><BR/> "Let's be clear: We're talking about events that occurred under the previous government. So I would suggest to you that in terms of asking what actually happened, those questions would be best directed to Mr. Dion," he said.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-54032498628725443592007-08-10T12:53:00.000-04:002007-08-10T12:53:00.000-04:00ottlibIt is very repetitive, but it is more striki...ottlib<BR/><BR/>It is very repetitive, but it is more striking when you have a government that is so pius in claiming the moral high ground. Conservatives, both here and in American, tend to fall farther, because they look down on others, as though they don't share common human failings.<BR/><BR/>I agree, that this may never be proven, I'm just not buying, based on my own intuition.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-17962439662976721642007-08-10T12:48:00.000-04:002007-08-10T12:48:00.000-04:00Regardless of whether it actually passed by Harper...Regardless of whether it actually passed by Harper's desk, I think that Steve's point in the subsequent commentary is bang on:<BR/><BR/><I>In denying, the PMO will just give the story more legs, as reporters try to sniff out the truth.</I>Canadian Tar Heelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08296189877750355753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-75002722115793327772007-08-10T12:02:00.000-04:002007-08-10T12:02:00.000-04:00I am certain those Conservatives who claimed Paul ...I am certain those Conservatives who claimed Paul Martin must have been involved up to his neck in the Quebec Sponsorship Program will be trotting out all of the arguments Liberals made to deny such assertion when they try to deny Mr. Harper's involvement in this situation.<BR/><BR/>I am always amazed at how repetitive is politics. It is always the same old story, just different players.<BR/><BR/>In fairness, it cannot be proven that Mr. Harper had a hand in the blacking out of sections of the Arar Report.<BR/><BR/>To claim his style as some kind of proof is as valid as saying Mr. Martin being a senior cabinet minister and a senior minister from Quebec is proof of his involvement in Sponsorship.<BR/><BR/>More likely, Mr. Harper gave his ministers their marching orders and left it up to them to implement them. Or for that matter, Mr. Harper has created such an atmosphere of secrecy within his government, whenever it involves issues that may embarrass it, that he did not need to give specific instructions.<BR/><BR/>Which of course still does not speak well to Mr. Harper or his government.<BR/><BR/>Then again, we cannot ignore the perception that his style has created, which could give any assertions of his personal involvement legs, even if it is probably not true.ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-78678666124149925632007-08-10T10:49:00.000-04:002007-08-10T10:49:00.000-04:00In denying, the PMO will just give the story more ...In denying, the PMO will just give the story more legs, as reporters try to sniff out the truth. This might turn out to be another self-inflicted wound, akin to the detainee issue.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-4600409953653381492007-08-10T10:29:00.000-04:002007-08-10T10:29:00.000-04:00The latest blame-speech - regarding the Vancouver ...The latest blame-speech - regarding the Vancouver shootings Harper says it's because the Liberal senate haven't passed the minimum sentence bill - huh?<BR/><BR/>We already have a minimum sentence for pre-meditated murder - "life" without eligibility to apply for parole for 25 years - how much longer than life does Harper think would end this kind of crime?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-13939720419112218952007-08-10T10:13:00.000-04:002007-08-10T10:13:00.000-04:00I am sure everything goes through the Prime Minist...I am sure everything goes through the Prime Minister as he demands that everything that is done, has to be okayed by him. It is the same with the Air India case.<BR/> Remember, he is a one- man show.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-17106019756608863312007-08-10T10:12:00.000-04:002007-08-10T10:12:00.000-04:00And this is where Harper's media control obsession...And this is where Harper's media control obsession comes back to bite him in the rear, because as you so rightly said Steve V "The same PMO that demands everything pass Harper's desk for approval, prior to any public disclosure. And yet, on a highly sensitive issue, with international ramifications, we are to believe that Stephen Harper was out of the loop. Please:" AND how well this is known out in the wider electorate thanks to Harper actions like making when Cabinet meets secret and most recently using the RCMP to protect the CPC caucus retreat from the media even in the public places like the hotel lobby while leaving all other members of the public alone, despite this *NOT* being a normal function of the RCMP pre-Harper.<BR/><BR/>You are right Steve V that the speed that Buckler is trying to distance the PMO from this matter despite the clear absurdity of her claim indicates that they were involved and are now worried that will cause them political damage. It is not like they have clean hands regarding Arar given the willingness of Harper, Day, and Ablonski to assume he was a terrorist while in Syrian hands and indeed used the Liberals trying to get him returned to Canadian custody as "proof" of how "soft on terrorism" the Libs supposedly truly were as recorded in Hansard. This is something the CPC leadership has been repeatedly wrong about and appears to be so yet again, and worse may have placed partisan political considerations as "national security" simply to hide the fact his govenrment was acting first partisanly instead of responsibly. Not that this would surprise me, as I have said many times before anyone that could at the minimum cover-up the Grewal recordings fraud (giving the benefit of the doubt that Harper was not involved from the first editing onwards since that unlike his covering it up has yet to be proven, but he surely knew the editing was done by CPC hands since they had control the whole time despite his subsequent denials of any CPC wrongdoing in this matter) especially after using it for weeks ot make partisan hay out of is able to do pretty much anything IMHO.Scotianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06284856315992405261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-75103441560631054092007-08-10T10:09:00.000-04:002007-08-10T10:09:00.000-04:00Yeah, I read that this morning and laughed. I wond...Yeah, I read that this morning and laughed. I wonder if Sandra goes home at night and cries?Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-40295040948737576002007-08-10T09:46:00.000-04:002007-08-10T09:46:00.000-04:00You know that Harper doesn't take responsibility -...You know that Harper doesn't take responsibility - it's the Liberals' fault, his ministers' fault - never his.<BR/><BR/>He's a very weak man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com