tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post8915628110649741306..comments2023-10-22T09:18:16.885-04:00Comments on Far and Wide: Green ShootsSteve Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-90180649270605674162012-01-16T19:39:38.648-05:002012-01-16T19:39:38.648-05:00There is a risk, but I believe this will be temper...There is a risk, but I believe this will be tempered IF candidates are truly resonating, then silly games by no life opponents will be meaningless. Seriously, we are only talking about diehard partisans, your average vote isn't interested in this sort of bs, so if WE can achieve good turnout through compelling ideas, I'm not worried.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-82176591974062883012012-01-16T16:06:45.700-05:002012-01-16T16:06:45.700-05:00Steve, I agree with your views regarding primaries...Steve, I agree with your views regarding primaries. I am a supporter of a primary-like system because I believe it's important to bring the candidates to the prairies in a MEANINGFUL way as opposed to a debate that has little bearing on the leadership race. I agree that "infighting" may occur, but look at the damaged caused on 2006 w/ the Ignatieff-Dion exchange that was replayed ad nauseam by the CPC. Conventions are not bulletproof to gaffes and infighting.<br /><br />But I think if people are truly concerned with hijackers -- I would posit that the best way to minimize this is to have members vote down the long-list of candidates by ranked ballot into the top 3 choices who will then be voted on by all members AND supporters. Would this safeguard defeat the purpose of supporter signing up in the first place? I don't think so. It would also encourage more people interested in the party and it's leadership to go that one step further and become a member. <br /><br />However, with a primary system, it would be hard to do a two-vote leadership vote without giving preferential treatment to some primaries over others. That being said, the party could always FORCE everyone other than the top 3 to drop out for the last three primaries (most likely BC, ON and QC with their larger and more LPC friendly populations) while setting the tone in the Maritimes, Manitoba, AB, Sask and the Territories. <br /><br />Clearly the role supporters will play in selecting the next leader is far from decided and the devil will live in the details; ultimately deciding whether or not the move will pay, or finish, the party off.Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16984468805919067190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-14815408067163528032012-01-16T15:13:24.668-05:002012-01-16T15:13:24.668-05:00I hope there is some loophole on the primary idea,...I hope there is some loophole on the primary idea, particularly since we did get a true majority in a basic sense. Part of the rationale for supporters was intertwined with this staggered idea. As well, logistically a national primary will be harder to pull off, so that could "sway" sentiment.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-74130368941852446812012-01-16T13:17:39.075-05:002012-01-16T13:17:39.075-05:00The Party done good I thought, first steps, I'...The Party done good I thought, first steps, I'm glad for the monarchy Vote: don't throw the old lady out with the bathwater, tradition, and the great majesty that is British Constitutional Evolution cannot be replaced by becoming yet another off-the-shelf republic. Commonwealth of provinces/territories, with free enterprise (non-corporatist capitalism) cooperative/credit union bio-localism please.Jerry Pragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054428435443042500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20358187.post-80059661798169237332012-01-16T12:58:03.589-05:002012-01-16T12:58:03.589-05:00I was plesantly surprised that Crawley won. I vote...I was plesantly surprised that Crawley won. I voted for Hartling, but Crawley was my second choice. <br /><br /><i>As an aside, I note Lawrence Martin on Cpac last night mentioned "confusion" over this question coming from party officials, some suggestion the issue wasn't quite dead yet, so stay tuned...</i><br /><br />Yeah. The idea was presented that there could still be primaries. The board, though, wouldn't have more freedom in deciding what to do since they wouldn't be bound by the Constitution. I could be wrong on this (I'll admit to this). <br /><br />(Funny thing -- we all complain about the length of the damn thing, but didn't we just add more sections to the Liberal Constitution at the convention?)sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.com