Canadians put the Conservative in power, albeit in a minority. That they've all but governed as a majority is not Layton's doing. He's pulled the plug on the Conservatives several times. It's the Liberals that are keeping Harper in power.
I suspect there would be a big difference between this supposed "de facto' majority and an actual one.
Still I wonder if the NDP don't have any regrets about trying a little harder to work with Paul Martin. I bet we would be in better shape today if they had.
I guess that thems the perks when your party has absolutely no responsibility because they have no chance of forming a government.
Would the NDP really be better of with more seats in the house and CPC majority ... didn't think so.
"Still I wonder if the NDP don't have any regrets about trying a little harder to work with Paul Martin. I bet we would be in better shape today if they had."
Why don't you ask Paul Martin if he has any regrets about how he refusing to make any compromises whatsoever with the NDP in Nov. '05 and essentially dared them to defeat his government?
Of course, let's not forget that Martin had already committed to call an election as soon as the Gomery Report was issued - meaning that if the NDP had swallowed its pride and propped up the Liberals in exchange for NOTHING - it would have meant a whopping FOUR more WEEKS of Liberal rule.
If you honestly think that Canada would be soooo much better a place as a result of FOUR MORE WEEKS of Paul Martin - you have really gotten drunk on Liberal Kool-Aid
I'm sure Jack would like us all to forget, but I haven't . . . and I won't. He pulled the plug on the Martin government, and he and his party of course have that right.
But if Jack is going to stand on a soapbox now and proclaim he's defending the country of all that evil and mess that Harper is bringing upon the country, then I'm entitled to my strong belief that he needs to accept some of the blame for getting us there.
So quit your bitching, Harold, and face the facts. We're not the only ones who feel that way, so Saint Jack ain't ever going to get a chance with folks like us.
"The Liberals have the problem of picking the right time. If they pick the wrong time, they may very well inflict us with a majority Harper government."
Amen Mark,
I have voted for the federal NDP and Liberal in the past and that is exactly the problem the centre-left of Canada face.
Then, a policy. A single policy. Held up as the hallmark of future Liberal rule.
This single policy comes at a time when a rise in fuel prices appear to be the single most economic destabilizing influence facing Canadians. At historic highs, fuel costs threaten to push Canadians in general into an economic tailspin, and certain segments of our society (independent truckers, low income homeowners with home heating being one of the biggest fixed expenses in this cold climate to name just two) into the abyss.
And so at this time Dion choses fuel (carbon) tax as the single issue to promote.
Is there is a better example of an out of touch, narcissistic, academic liberal elite choosing to put their own self described superior ideals over the interests of a public he considers in need of his high mindedness (which public is apparently too 'ignorant' to reduce consumption of fuel even in the face of massive market driven rise in prices)?
From the June 14th, 2008 edition of the New York Times - "China has clearly overtaken the United States as the world’s leading emitter of carbon dioxide, the main heat-trapping gas, a new study has found, its emissions increasing 8 percent in 2007. The Chinese increase accounted for two-thirds of the growth in the year’s global greenhouse gas emissions, the study found."
Yet China isn't bound by Kyoto.
And Dion wants to run our economy into the ground so Canadians can save the planet. Can someone please tell me what planet Dion's on?
I hope Dion will also arrive at the conclusion that there is no good season for the introduction of his carbon tax.
"Is there is a better example of an out of touch, narcissistic, academic liberal elite choosing to put their own self described superior ideals over the interests of a public he considers in need of his high mindedness "
The details of the policy may be unreleased, but the Liberals have let it be known that they plan to release something that will call itself a "carbon tax" - of course it may end up being so watered down and such a joke that it will end up being a Carbon Tax in name only
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Whooee! Yeah, funny. I looked at the graphic first and wondered if they were portraying Dion as A Man for All Seasons.
JB
"So, when will Stéphane Dion stop the irreversible damage of the Harper agenda?"
Do they take no responsibility whatsoever for putting Harper in power? An apology for that would be nice.
Anonymous 7:33.
Stop your whining already.
Canadians put the Conservative in power, albeit in a minority. That they've all but governed as a majority is not Layton's doing. He's pulled the plug on the Conservatives several times. It's the Liberals that are keeping Harper in power.
I suspect there would be a big difference between this supposed "de facto' majority and an actual one.
Still I wonder if the NDP don't have any regrets about trying a little harder to work with Paul Martin. I bet we would be in better shape today if they had.
I guess that thems the perks when your party has absolutely no responsibility because they have no chance of forming a government.
Would the NDP really be better of with more seats in the house and CPC majority ... didn't think so.
"Still I wonder if the NDP don't have any regrets about trying a little harder to work with Paul Martin. I bet we would be in better shape today if they had."
Why don't you ask Paul Martin if he has any regrets about how he refusing to make any compromises whatsoever with the NDP in Nov. '05 and essentially dared them to defeat his government?
Of course, let's not forget that Martin had already committed to call an election as soon as the Gomery Report was issued - meaning that if the NDP had swallowed its pride and propped up the Liberals in exchange for NOTHING - it would have meant a whopping FOUR more WEEKS of Liberal rule.
If you honestly think that Canada would be soooo much better a place as a result of FOUR MORE WEEKS of Paul Martin - you have really gotten drunk on Liberal Kool-Aid
The question before us is, do we want an election which will put Harper in power with a majority?
The NDP don't have any power, so it's easy for them to vote on principle.
The Liberals have the problem of picking the right time. If they pick the wrong time, they may very well inflict us with a majority Harper government.
I'm personally for going anytime, but I understand the opposing view.
Actually, I agree with anonymous.
I'm sure Jack would like us all to forget, but I haven't . . . and I won't. He pulled the plug on the Martin government, and he and his party of course have that right.
But if Jack is going to stand on a soapbox now and proclaim he's defending the country of all that evil and mess that Harper is bringing upon the country, then I'm entitled to my strong belief that he needs to accept some of the blame for getting us there.
So quit your bitching, Harold, and face the facts. We're not the only ones who feel that way, so Saint Jack ain't ever going to get a chance with folks like us.
"The Liberals have the problem of picking the right time. If they pick the wrong time, they may very well inflict us with a majority Harper government."
Amen Mark,
I have voted for the federal NDP and Liberal in the past and that is exactly the problem the centre-left of Canada face.
Abstaining and smearing,
smearing and abstaining.
Then, a policy. A single policy. Held up as the hallmark of future Liberal rule.
This single policy comes at a time when a rise in fuel prices appear to be the single most economic destabilizing influence facing Canadians. At historic highs, fuel costs threaten to push Canadians in general into an economic tailspin, and certain segments of our society (independent truckers, low income homeowners with home heating being one of the biggest fixed expenses in this cold climate to name just two) into the abyss.
And so at this time Dion choses fuel (carbon) tax as the single issue to promote.
Is there is a better example of an out of touch, narcissistic, academic liberal elite choosing to put their own self described superior ideals over the interests of a public he considers in need of his high mindedness (which public is apparently too 'ignorant' to reduce consumption of fuel even in the face of massive market driven rise in prices)?
From the June 14th, 2008 edition of the New York Times - "China has clearly overtaken the United States as the world’s leading emitter of carbon dioxide, the main heat-trapping gas, a new study has found, its emissions increasing 8 percent in 2007. The Chinese increase accounted for two-thirds of the growth in the year’s global greenhouse gas emissions, the study found."
Yet China isn't bound by Kyoto.
And Dion wants to run our economy into the ground so Canadians can save the planet. Can someone please tell me what planet Dion's on?
I hope Dion will also arrive at the conclusion that there is no good season for the introduction of his carbon tax.
"Is there is a better example of an out of touch, narcissistic, academic liberal elite choosing to put their own self described superior ideals over the interests of a public he considers in need of his high mindedness "
What a load of pseudo-intellectual tripe.
Here's a difference the Liberals would make: Federal handgun ban.
"Law and order" Tories are afraid to take on the gun runners.
Can you imagine how humiliating it would be for Dion to backtrack on the Carbon Tax now AFTER having expended so much political capital on it?
Pass the popcorn - this will be fun.
"Can you imagine how humiliating it would be for Dion to backtrack on the Carbon Tax now AFTER having expended so much political capital on it?"
How can you backtrack on a yet unreleased policy? That would be a first.
The details of the policy may be unreleased, but the Liberals have let it be known that they plan to release something that will call itself a "carbon tax" - of course it may end up being so watered down and such a joke that it will end up being a Carbon Tax in name only
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